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Chuck Schalk

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The PLI and JLT have proven to be a farce in the life of the employees. They use our ideas to make the airline more productive and leaner and Management reaps the benefits in the so called shared sacrifice! The TWU and all it's great un-elected leaders keep promoting these programs for our benefit! (that is a funny one right there)

these committees are worthless and pointless to us. If management wants the bonuses let them come up with all the great ideas.
 
Has Local 562 pulled out of the dog and pony show.

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Local 562 president and vice president are waiting for the next meeting with Reding to be told to their faces that we are getting NO incentives but they will go ahead and receive their bonuses.
 
Local 562 president and vice president are waiting for the next meeting with Reding to be told to their faces that we are getting NO incentives but they will go ahead and receive their bonuses.
<_< ------Do you have any doubts as to what they'll be told? And when that happens, what will they do about it? 😉------What can they? At least it sounds as if they have more backbone than my own Local!
 
And when that happens, what will they do about it? 😉------What can they?
At that point they must come to the decision between free booze, steak, 5 star hotel rooms, unlimited UB pay, or going with the wishes of the membership and never joining any of this anti-worker BS. I know that my local has chosen to stay with company paid perks at the memberships expense. :down:
 
Local 562 president and vice president are waiting for the next meeting with Reding to be told to their faces that we are getting NO incentives but they will go ahead and receive their bonuses.

All the local presidents were told this all ready. Local 561 left the table.

Most on the floor knew this JLT was nothing more than management using the employees ideas to save money and them reaping the rewards.

They are unable to do their jobs so they use us to do it for them. We see nothing from the contract work we have done here in MIA so the money must go towards mgmt shared sacrifice. We work more so they make more.
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An interesting event has arisen at Local 565 as a result of the MIA, LAX, and now JFK pulling out of the PLI, etc, etc, etc. A DFW shop steward today was officially removed from his duties for supporting these other locals in pulling out of the PLI. Yes, it's "my way or the highway-president stewart," and if you're not licking his boots, you're gone. This is the same crackpot that refused the membership the right to elect their shop steward, now we know why. Word is president stewart now has two choices: resign, or be recalled rather soon. :shock:
 
Does anyone truly believe they are going to give us anything?

When the local presidents meet with Redding on Feb 7, he is going to tell them that the company is not going to give us any incentives and that we have a contract. But the DFW and TUL locals will continue to drink from the PLI and JLT KOOL AID fountain of dreams.

The only incentive TULSA is looking for is to keep that base running at full speed so that no one on that base and that base alone gets laid off. The TWU will have us ALL work for walmart wages as long as TULSA benefits.
 
Don't you mean Promoted? Trash doesn't get tossed out with the TWU, it gets promoted.
Very true, there is door number 3--the promotion, and he's just the type.

But the DFW and TUL locals will continue to drink from the PLI and JLT KOOL AID fountain of dreams.
That would be the DFW Local Officers who agree to anything in exchange for upwards of 10 of them, including phat don, to be on company paid UB. That's a bribe in my book and explains the lack of representation, and they count in the headcount which cost us potential recalls.

Speaking of recall, I am hearing recall petitions are circulating for a couple of these so-called union officers.
 
ANY joint meetings between the company and union that continue concessions from AMTs is pointless.

ANY management bonus/raise while AMTs live under life changing conditions is GREED.

ANYONE who can not comprehend that the company will lie to us and smile while they do it is ignorant.

My Local 564 President is not ignorant. He understands the facts that face AMTs. Unfortunately there are others in Local 564 who see differently. Believing that a person can fight for AMTs is what they are elected for. But to continue to work hand in hand with the company while they accept bonuses is WRONG.

Visit Local 564's web site. There is a disturbing letter stating that the E-Board is electing to stay in these concessionary talks. I am saddened that there are those who would continue to show the company that they will accept ANY amount of disrespect and humility.

I applaud and support my President and those who support him. Those who sign any letter such as the one posted on the Local 564 web site are disillusioned. Or even sadder, hoping to do the company's bidding for the future chance of personal gain.

What is it about the ANGER and SHITTY MORALE coursing through the work force that those who will support concessionary talks with the company don't understand?

LOCAL 564 OFFICERS I CALL UPON YOU TO SUPPORT OUR ELECTED PRESIDENT. I CALL UPON YOU TO LISTEN TO THE MEMBERSHIP!
 
Visit Local 564's web site. There is a disturbing letter stating that the E-Board is electing to stay in these concessionary talks.

January 8, 2007
To: John Conley – TWU International VP ATD – AA System Coordinator
Re: Local 564 Position on PSP and Joint Process Efforts
On January 4, 2007 Local 564’s Executive Board met and discussed many issues and events that are currently affecting its membership specifically and the TWU membership as a whole. The Executive Board discussed the importance and serious responsibility it has in representing its members. The Board also discussed the various forms that representation may take. The responsibility of Executive Board is not one that can be taken lightly or without weighing all the possible
actions and their associated consequences. The risks must be assessed along with the rewards of any action that is taken and the impact to those who they represent. Many times the Executive Board will be faced with the undesirable task of making difficult decisions that cannot be influenced by politics, but must be made on what is right for the entire membership based on the facts before them. It is the responsibility of that same Executive Board to effectively communicate those facts to its members despite the outcry that may initially result.

Knowing that the responsibility of the Executive Board is to represent its members per the NLRA, TWU Constitution,
and Local Bylaws the Executive Board discussed the following topics;

• The Local’s participation in joint process efforts

• The Performance Share Plan (PSP) and the planned pay out to upper management

The Local’s Executive Board discussed how creating an effective and structured joint process would benefit its
members. To make such a process work the Executive Board would need to make a concerted effort on behalf of its
members and that it would need to be vigilant in ensuring that the members interests are effectively represented. In light of these concepts the Executive Board came to the following conclusions;

• That Pulling out of all Joint Process Efforts

o Demonstrates the memberships’ extreme dissatisfaction with PSP
o Is an extreme measure that leaves the membership with no representative to raise issues in a proactive
aspect.
o Abdicates the responsibility of union officers to have any input for possible changes that may affect
the membership – strong possibility of having a negative impact on members’ current situation

• That Staying involved in the Joint Process Efforts

o Keeps dialogue between Company and Union open
o Maintains structure to raise issues on behalf of members – input can be made that can positively
impact the membership
o Maintains the ability of the Local Union’s representatives to voice members’ dissatisfaction with PSP
and its extreme risk to the effectiveness of the future joint process

The Executive Board also discussed the Local memberships’ extreme dissatisfaction with the PSP and the anticipated
pay outs. The Executive Board will not ignore the memberships’ concerns in regards to this form of compensation. Our membership agrees with;

• Appropriate rewards and incentives for all employees of AA
• Fair and equitable methods of distributing rewards and incentives

Local 564’s membership does not agree with reward and incentive systems that benefit one select segment of the
Company and exclude most other employees who also have contributed to the Company’s success. The current formula
and system that exists under the PSP does not support the spirit of “Working Together†that is being conveyed in our
corporate communications. M&E JLTs, ALTs, FLTs, and other joint process efforts are now beginning to make significant progress and the Local understands that future prosperity for AA M&E will improve compensation and job
security. Joint Process efforts have turned up many successes;

• 3P Contract work – HAL SFO, Allegiant, Synergy, as well as many others

• MD80 Pulse Line is making great strides in lowering costs

• AFW Futures is working towards freeing up an entire line for 3P and reducing dock days so aircraft can generate additional revenue

• Line Breakthrough Teams are working to lowering costs and generating additional 3P revenue

Positive efforts such as these can not be overlooked and would not be as successful without the skills and expertise of the TWU membership.

Local 564 Position

Local 564 strongly opposes the current PSP structure and urges AA Senior Management to seriously examine and
change the way rewards, incentives, and any additional variable compensation is paid out. Such plans should pay out at an appropriate level to all employees of the Company based on the same metrics or formula. The PSP in its current state further aggravates and grows the rift that exists between management and labor at AA.

The Local will continue its involvement in all joint process efforts and will continue to argue against the current PSP structure. The Executive Board maintains that senior management must address the negative effects of the PSP. The Local Executive Board is resolute in their effort to make known that its membership is extremely dissatisfied with the PSP and that failure to address this issue will risk the future of frontline participation in any “Working Together†or “Joint Process†efforts.

The Local will continue to review its position and will evaluate and adjust as necessary.


Fraternally,

(Signed original on file)
Chris Oriyano
Financial Secretary Treasurer
TWU Local 564 AFL-CIO


CC: G. Yingst
D. Videtich
J. Healey


A sickening letter indeed.
 
So Ken, AMFAMAN, Hopeless what is your solution? WE all know you want the TWU out. Then what? Please tell us what happens when another union gets on the property? But please spare me the the comments regarding voting in internat'l reps etc. Voting rights will not get rid of the very thing you are complaining about.
 
What I find interesting about that letter is how the author continues to talk about the membership's position on matters but not once ever mentioned that these matters or postions were ever discussed and voted by the membership. This is typical TWU 101 forked tongue propaganda.

The letter simply states that Executive Board of Local 564 apparently thinks and acts for the membership.

I would like to see every local in the AA system conduct a membership balloting regarding any further involvement or non-involvement in the working together for a bone-us program.

Of course we all know all to well that the membership is not really the Supreme Authority within the TWU.

I think working together is an important aspect of Labor/Management relations. It always has been. However, placing a name and a charter on the process simply spells out trouble for the labor side of the equation. The big rub is not the working together process, it is the PROGRAM that has been put in place that appears to reward only one side of the relationship. I have worked with my Local Management to improve processes and save money since I hired into American Airlines. The difference, is there used to be an Ideas Program to reward my efforts. These days, after Industry Leading Concessions, the ideas are expected to be given for free and the Management reaps all the rewards.

I am not near as motivated to share my ideas, and improvements these days. In fact, I actually hate going to work for AA.

This low life company union has been fleecing the workers for nearly 25 years. The only difference is today they are bold enough to come right and tell us they are in bed in management. In the past, this fact was somewhat hid from public view and only through a review of negotiated history could one see the damage being done to the worker. These days, Management spends more time inside the Local Union Hall than most members do.

The solution...

Either shut up and accept the fleecing, or move on to another industry or profession. Because the cowards and lack of unionism left is not going to change anything for the better. I am not sure where the bottom is for those I work around, but it is clear to me that we are not there yet in their minds.
 
I would like to see every local in the AA system conduct a membership balloting regarding any further involvement or non-involvement in the working together for a bone-us program.

Here in the 564 I am submitting a motion for just that. Other Locals will have similar motions too.

It is funny how the only person I hear saying that we should remain in these concessionary talks are the ones actually flying around on the union's dime. The feeling on the floor is ANGER. NO ONE feels good about the blatant bonuses management will be getting.

When the company says that their slogan of "Shared Sacrifice" was actually shared it just wasn't EQUAL a person would have to be a fool to believe the company cares about anything other than their fleece lined pockets.
 

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