USCREW
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Since it is very obvious that you are not crew, why are you interested in the F/A seniority issue, and getting rid of seniors? What do you consider senior?
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Since it is very obvious that you are not crew, why are you interested in the F/A seniority issue, and getting rid of seniors? What do you consider senior?
SegmentKing
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It would be nice if America West actually CLEARED their standby lists.
At US-East, we are trained to not hound the gate agents. We're trained that its ok to politely ask how its looking, but to take our seats and wait to be called.
I have done this TWO TIMES now in PHX.
And both times, the planes left with empty seats and myself in the gate area.
The excuse "Omg, I'm so sorry, I forgot about you".
I spoke to a supervisor who told me "oh, well here you have to remind us".
Maybe this is why HP's payroll is so small and why most of HP doesn't like the seniority thing -- cause their turnover is higher and therefor has a heck of a lot more junior people. When I fly thru San Fran, the East agents appear to be in their late 40s, 50s.. the HP gang seems quite young... not saying they're inept, but it appears they are newer to the scene than some of the other guys.
I've never been left behind on a US-East flight, or if I have, the controlling gate agent at least had the balls to make an announcement and say the flight is full (or what not).
East Meets West is becoming a very interesting soap opera.
At US-East, we are trained to not hound the gate agents. We're trained that its ok to politely ask how its looking, but to take our seats and wait to be called.
I have done this TWO TIMES now in PHX.
And both times, the planes left with empty seats and myself in the gate area.
The excuse "Omg, I'm so sorry, I forgot about you".
I spoke to a supervisor who told me "oh, well here you have to remind us".
Maybe this is why HP's payroll is so small and why most of HP doesn't like the seniority thing -- cause their turnover is higher and therefor has a heck of a lot more junior people. When I fly thru San Fran, the East agents appear to be in their late 40s, 50s.. the HP gang seems quite young... not saying they're inept, but it appears they are newer to the scene than some of the other guys.
I've never been left behind on a US-East flight, or if I have, the controlling gate agent at least had the balls to make an announcement and say the flight is full (or what not).
East Meets West is becoming a very interesting soap opera.
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(Doc @ Jul 12 2006, 02:50 PM)
Man..... is it going to be tuff to get a flight out on time ...I mean OT performance will go out with my moral..........Never again will I take the extra step that I take every day to get flights out on time.
My senority is all I have left...you take that we are done.
Yeah, not getting your way in the use of flight benefits is certainly a good reason to not do your job ..
I call myself professional, but at some point you just have to join the unprofessional management team. I mean really they have stomped on your ^%#$ so many times it is ridiculous but maybe you like it. I will do my JOB but that is it…. nothing else.
You take my seniority we are done………..
Not whining just telling you I will continue to do my JOB…Can’t leave it’s too late, but I am trying be sure of that. I remember what it was like to be treated at Piedmont ….got paid less and didn’t mind because I was treated like a valuable asset not a piece of meat. Then USAirways got a hold of us ….you know the rest of the story.
When you are 67 or maybe for you it’s more like 77 and you are ready to retire. I can just imagine how proud you will be cashing that 300.00 check a month.
I know all the top management will be enjoying all the millions they rapped from you will hold them over.
How long have you been doing the same job?
Sorry to quote myself, but had this happen tonight. Employee was listed on PHX flight, but the inbound connection had a 3 hour maintenance delay and misconx. Now arriving in the connection city, they want to be put on the list for LAS. OK, redo ticket, boom on the list now behind 2 other people. Wait a minute they cry (someone who should be used to how FCFS works.) I should be first on the list. Their suggestion, reorder the standby list since they were trying for an earlier flight and should be ahead of the other people since they listed for a flight 4 hours earlier. Sorry, FCFS, no can reshuffle for you. Its a great system. 🙄 With each hiccup I see and possible abuse ( quick, call your friend to redo the list) I can honestly say, I think I'm in favor of seniority. I've tried both this summer like they asked, but FCFS just isnt working for me with the current system in place. :down:
USCREW
Veteran
Exactly half of my life.
BTW, I did attempt to answer your earlier questions. You may have miss it .
And if you are traveling to lax, sfo, hnl or ogg? Who has the advantage? I cant believe that you are so self centered that you wouldnt consider a time when you would have an advantage over someone else? And what about the fact that US has many more senior people because the airline is older? How fair is that? Maybe Doug should have waited to merge with Delta or NW. Where would you be boarding about now? Hp would still be viable. US would be dead and I wouldnt have to deal with your constant whining. May be in the long run HP needed to merge with someone but why the **** did it have to be with US? So many of us are dealing with constant merger related problems and you want your seniority boarding. I wish they would just make the decision. I have posted so many times that as professionals we will deal with the outcome. We are not voting because the sheer numbers will be lopsided towards seniority boarding. Its posts like yours that make me want to gag. Grow up. We need to focus on customer service and completing this merger. Rant over.
USCREW
Veteran
I did not realize that America West was such a powerhouse.
"The rumor of my demise has been greatly exagerated"-Twain
Our name lives on.
USCREW
Veteran
IMO USAir has been very very fair in past mergers. Bending backwards in some instances. Think (Trump). If you had waited for Delta or NW I think you'd see that they'd consider HP a big nobody, and would treat you accordingly, regardless of the fact that they are in BK. So maybe HP is a big deal in Tempe, but there is obviously a reason why the name has been dropped- It was unknown to many. You would have been treated like a regional step-child. So don't be so harsh on US. It's a nice airline; one of the reasons why there is such longevity.
I NEVER said HP was a powerhouse but it certainly made money the quarter before the merger was announced. Can you say that for US? I can tell you for sure HP would have been around at least another year, can US say that? Who is the current CEO of US, let me think, it must be the nobody from Tempe who just fell off the turnip truck. The name was kept because of the international trvl and some of the certifications. Do you think the name was kept because it had such a stellar reputation? Do you remember Christmas and the baggage meltdown? Most people didnt care whose fault it was-management or employee-they only knew the name was US Airways and I can tell you many of us verbalized how we were grateful not to be working for that airleine. The laugh was on us. The merger is a done deal and we are all in this together. We need to work together to improve all employee benefits, including income. I am hoping instead of just making a decision, one way or the other, they have put together a team to come up with a viable option, a compromise of sorts to help make the outcome a little more palateable(sp?) for all the employees.
If Doug was the CEO of a merger with Delta or NW-and Im not saying thats not a possibility in the next year or so-Im sure they WOULDNT treat HP like a big nobody. If the CEO was from Delta or NW, possibly so, but I dont see Doug merging with another airline and NOT being CEO, why would he? Yes, US IS a very nice airline with so many, many good employees. But so was HP! Its not the employees who will decide the boarding situation but at least realize there are TWO sides to this and each side has a good reason for the way they think. I just want everyone to think about the other side and not just about themselves. Another Rant Over.
USCREW
Veteran
Oh yes they would. HP is not a legacy carrier; not on the same level; not peers....more in the group with SW, Spirit, Airtran, B6....to think otherwise would be naive.
Having said that, DP is the best thing that has happened to US (unless he finally chooses FCFS).
soc-hpjester
Senior
The reason HP was a powerhouse was due to the low pay. The big ? is since we are now called US, can we get their payscale ?
