Scab Bobby DePace on youtube

[bagboy]

No I play the guitar like he does and I stand with him because i refuse to blame him for what has gone on with this BS union. I have met him and hung out with him on several occasions and I won't stab him in the back, if I had a problem with him I would tell him personally. This union is doomed no matter what he did he would of looked bad.
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Bobby may have been a fun guy to have a beer with but with the way things went down during the AMFA strike, people will never get passed it. Plus we the union members suffer from the same problem as NWA management. When there is a problem we don't care how to fix it, we just want someone to blame for it. Bobby did say blame me and we did. He has accepted his part in the whole deal. Time for you to do the same. End of story.

 

[bagboy]

But De Pace admits it's unlikely. He says the IAM has different interests than the mechanics. IAM members are still waiting for a $216 million-payback from Northwest for concessions the union made more than a decade ago.

"There's a lot that we have at stake," De Pace says. "Because if Northwest goes bankrupt we lose that $216 million," says De Pace. "And there are people -- our members -- who have [as much as] $30,000, and they want their money. So we are going to avoid bankruptcy at every turn that we can."

He had out best intrests in mind that's why he got backed into a corner with this situation.
Personally I could care less about the mechanics they chose to leave 6 years ago and join another union so what the hell?

I wouldn't have liked to see a reconciation between the AMFA and the IAM. I beleive that the power in the numbers is the way to go. But they are Technitions and are not to be tied to he unskilled ramp so have at it alone, again, the AMFA, and the no talent ass clown scabs you have in your ranks.

 

[tech2101]

I wouldn't have liked to see a reconciation between the AMFA and the IAM. I beleive that the power in the numbers is the way to go. But they are Technitions and are not to be tied to he unskilled ramp so have at it alone, again, the AMFA, and the no talent ass clown scabs you have in your ranks.

Continue this discussion with yourself, you seem to be enjoying the company.

 

[bagboy]

Continue this discussion with yourself, you seem to be enjoying the company.

Nothing else to add? Just call me a company man and that"s it?

 

[Kev3188]

I beleave that there has been NO action from the IAM since the hand over.

Relative to the last admin., there has been plenty more... Not nearly enough, of course, but some.

It's easy to update the IAM website KEV with so much inaction. Next to zero info on what is being done to even things up between what the pilots have received and what needs to be changed with the other contracts "ME too".

The pilots' contract improvements were a "give to get," where they tabled a grievance in return for the improvements they received. The $$ they got was equal to what the grievance would have paid (at least that's my understanding).

No talk of getting the work back that is rightfuly ours. "Fleet service"

This is where we agree 100%. The IAM should immediately do 2 things, IMO: 1. Secure CRJ-900/Mesaba language the same way they did E75s. 2. Permanently protect the 40 stations that are still in existence. These are, IMO, "cost neutral," and would only cost the company the price of the extra ink for 2 pages in our CBA. From there, they should work on other items.

Sh*t we haven't even seen a book printed out two years after the fact even though the website says they are amost done.

No argument here, either. What you and I both know is that the holdup was due to the 2 parties fighting over the language in article 5 (Part Time ESE's). The fact that it took almost 2 years to hash out is inexcusable, but if nothing else, I'm glad they at least fought it out.

If Bobby is going to be your whipping boy for the bad deal we got from the company have fun but don't prop up the current administation in the IAM because I haven't seen crap from them.

I'm no apologist for the current admin. However, I have seen more responsiveness from these guys than I ever saw from the last crowd.

Hell I've got more action in my favor out of NWA, the devil themselves, than my own union. I liked the tough talk that Bobby had been doing precontact,

That's just it; it was all hot air. When push came top shove he caved. Long before it came to a vote.

At the end of the day, Bobby sent out a letter basically telling anyone who could leave to do so. And of course, it contained the IAM boilerplate about "having a gun to our heads." While I'm at it, Bobby's obsession with pensions (which were going to be frozen either way) cost a lot of mid-seniority guys a lot of scope and other items.

The fact that both Julie Hagen-Showers and Doug Steenland had kind praise for him is more damning of testimony than anything I could ever type here.

the members weren't brave enough to walk the talk.

I know, and it sucks. A lot of fear mongering by both the company and IAM did little to help things.


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[Kev3188]

Bobby was willing to stand tough

No he wasn't. All it would've taken was a refusal to endorse any of the T/A's put out.

Probably guys like you who talk a good game but don't do anything about it.

Don't make assumptions about things you know zero about.

What was he supposed to do?

Fighting for his members-and by this I mean more than spewing hyperbole-would have been a good start.

Update the website yes that would of fixed everything

It's not the PDGC's job to update the website, but seeing as that's how a lot of people get there information, yes, that would have been a good thing.

he was too busy in negotiations to even campaign to stay in office.

...And yet he ran anyway. And lost.

Anyway he's probably better off not having to lead such a BS union

Maybe, maybe not. We're certainly better off without him at the helm.

do you work in the same station he does?

No, I do not. Not far away, though.

Because I truly doubt you would talk to him face to face.

Again you assume incorrectly. In fact, when he was in office, I tried to contact him many many times (via email and phone), and *never* got a response.

If I saw him today, I would not hesitate to talk to him. Why would I? For that matter, why would he not want to?

 

[violated]

I'll buy two CD's Bobby, One to #### on, and one to wipe my ass with you fat ass loser SCAB!

 

[Don Smith]

Bobby DePace has always been a one-way peice of trash that made it up the union ladder talking trash about the company in union meetings while kissing their a@#$% in company meetings. He was a perfect example of telling someone something long enough, they'll believe it. The IAM membership bought his crap hook, line and sinker. If I saw him I would talk to him "Boogs". I would ask him to his stinking face how he could tell "his" membership to cross a legal picket line out of spite. We were all in the same fight, some of us were on the battle line a little sooner. After nwa ditched the mechanics, with Depace's help, the company turned it's sights on the ramp. Anyone with a brain could see the company strategy...divide and conquer, one union at a time. First the mechanics. They saved the easiest for last...they had Bobby on their side cry the company blues. It doesn't really matter who you have in the leadership of the IAM now. Its empty. No heart.

 

[bagboy]

I have been asking the current IAM administration about the were abouts of the 1113c payback money. NWA paid the money in to the union who then with withheld 5% of each payment for any greivances. The money was then to be repaid to the members once the time period for greivances was up. The time frame was laid out but not followed by the union. Even at modest gains there was money made in interest. My question is, with over 200 million paid to the IAM to distribute to us, what was done with the interest left over after you took out the admin cost of the task of distribution? The question was ask to the IAM last April and I was told that Mr. Gordon would be getting back to me on this. Two other times I checked back and two more blow offs. Sounds like someone may have some explaining to do.

 

[Don Smith]

You're likely going to find that the administrative costs equaled (surprize) <_< $200 Million

My question is, with over 200 million paid to the IAM to distribute to us, what was done with the interest left over after you took out the admin cost of the task of distribution?

 

[Kev3188]

I have been asking the current IAM administration about the were abouts of the 1113c payback money. NWA paid the money in to the union who then with withheld 5% of each payment for any greivances. The money was then to be repaid to the members once the time period for greivances was up.

The 5% payout(s) have all been paid; you should have received a total of 6 payments. You can check this out on RADAR. If you haven't received all your $$$, I'm sure your shop rep would be more than happy to help you get it.

My question is, with over 200 million paid to the IAM to distribute to us, what was done with the interest left over after you took out the admin cost of the task of distribution?

All applicable interest was paid out in/with each successive payment.



The better question to me is; who bought each of the unions' claims? These hedge funds (or whoever) now have quite a hand in NWA's future.

 

[UAL_TECH]

Here's another IAM Hero...

Former union leader crosses Northwest mechanics' picket lines

Despite his long history as a union leader, Northwest Airlines maintenance inspector Mike Hurley is crossing the picket lines of striking mechanics.

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B) UT

 

[Kev3188]

Ahh yes...Who could forget the "father of the year?"

 

[Necrophilias]

Bobby DePace has always been a one-way peice of trash that made it up the union ladder talking trash about the company in union meetings while kissing their a@#$% in company meetings. He was a perfect example of telling someone something long enough, they'll believe it. The IAM membership bought his crap hook, line and sinker. If I saw him I would talk to him "Boogs". I would ask him to his stinking face how he could tell "his" membership to cross a legal picket line out of spite. We were all in the same fight, some of us were on the battle line a little sooner. After nwa ditched the mechanics, with Depace's help, the company turned it's sights on the ramp. Anyone with a brain could see the company strategy...divide and conquer, one union at a time. First the mechanics. They saved the easiest for last...they had Bobby on their side cry the company blues. It doesn't really matter who you have in the leadership of the IAM now. Its empty. No heart.

DePace also looked like Uncle Fester making an ill attempt to be a musician. I didn't see or hear anything close to a music performance. What I saw as hypocrisy on legs, holding a guitar, making unusual noises and doing so in bad posture.

I can easily see why you guys who walked the picket line despise the tone deaf, Fester looking goof.

 

[coneyislandboogs]

DePace also looked like Uncle Fester making an ill attempt to be a musician. I didn't see or hear anything close to a music performance. What I saw as hypocrisy on legs, holding a guitar, making unusual noises and doing so in bad posture.

I can easily see why you guys who walked the picket line despise the tone deaf, Fester looking goof.

Can you play an insrument?