Teamsters getting desperate

[cellblock8]

FYI,most all unions call potential member's during a campaign drive.This is politic's plain and simple..(Vote for me and i'll set you free,rock on brother's rock on)The Temptations.
By the way I have been a member with the Teamsters,IAM and CWA. The best one out of all is the TEAMSTERS,but You have to decide for yourself which one is best for you and your family.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

AMEN........someone else who agrees that there should be a choice.

 

[Dea Certe]

cellblock8,

Which years were you a Teamster? All unions are loosing their teeth today. Most unions today are bogged down by bureaucraties and internal politics.

I have to say I was horrified and dismayed by the IAM's response to AMFA over the NW strike. The IBT hasn't been particularly supportive of its fellow unions either.

Labor must get over the bickering between groups and pull together or we'll all be living at the same standards of the Chinese.

The middle class, the very fabric which made our country great is being putted apart by corporate greed.

Outsourcing in picking up speed. If we aren't careful, there will be no good jobs, no spendable income and no hope for recovery.

Dea

 

[gonzo]

I agree that the way the IAM treated it's "brothers and sisters" in AMFA was not a very good "union" attitude. The "hatred" for AMFA comes from them "stealing" IAM members. That is why IAM "hung them out to dry" when the NW strike came along.

The IBT has also not shown support for its other union brothers and sisters. The exit from the AFL-CIO was a very bold move on the part of the IBT. The IBT did this for it's future survival. Only time will tell if that will work well for them. The reasoning for their concern about survival was the the AFL-CIO was not seeing the changes that were going on in corporate America, or at least they were not working to be part of the change. As I have been saying "flexiblity" is very important for the unions.

Given the choice a union is better than none, and the IBT is better than the IAM. Just my two cents. 🙂

 

[gonzo]

Good Web Site

Teamsters Local 104

 

[700UW]

Two Better Web Pages:

District Lodge 142

Grand Lodge US Airways Page

 

[gonzo]

Two Better Web Pages:

District Lodge 142

Grand Lodge US Airways Page

Did I miss something. Where is the current IAM contract. I would like to compare the scope with the IBT scope. Not just the "verbage" but what has happened since the scopes have been voted on.

Mr. 7 could you please help me to find a copy of the IAM scope, so I can compare them? Thank you in advance for your help.

Everyone needs to ask themselves "why doesn't the IAM show the current IAM contract for the Mechanics and Related?". Like the IBT does🙂


Teamsters Local 104

 

[700UW]

Seek and yee shall find:

Final Offer Containing Scope

 

[gonzo]

Seek and yee shall find:

Final Offer Containing Scope

Wow!! Thank you!

 

[gonzo]

The Scope in this "Final Offer" would be very scary to even the most "hard core" non-union activist. They would not know if they should "s..." or "go blind." It is not a scope that I would want to "live" with. It doesn't waste any time in using "may outsource" as a filler for many of the heavy check descriptions. You could exchange "may" for "will", and you know it "will" happen.

I realize that the IAM had no choice in accepting the new concessions, but now they are bound by that agreement. I foresee no improvement in the near future for this agreement as it is written. 🙁

 

[PhxRanchHand]

Seek and yee shall find:

Final Offer Containing Scope

Where is the copy of the signed contract, id we are led to believe the IBT's copy is not factual how can we look at any " offer" with different glasses. We want a complete final and signed copy. So far after e-mails to the DL 142 and phone calls, I do not have info where to get one.

 

[gonzo]

Where is the copy of the signed contract, if we are led to believe the IBT's copy is not factual how can we look at any " offer" with different glasses. We want a complete final and signed copy. So far after e-mails to the DL 142 and phone calls, I do not have info where to get one.

You know that there will be no copy to be found. As it was said by an IAM member "you will get one when you are under the IAM CBA".

Like I have said in the past, "the copy of the IAM contract that we have isn't nicely printed and covered and the pages are not the same as the "new" copy, but the document is accurate and true".

Keep those cards comin' folks. Make yourself familiar with the Teamsters AWA contract.


Teamsters AWA contract

 

[fanlube]

B)
because it is a major part of the bankruptcy reorganization plan that the court and creditors approved to let U emerge....specific timetables with monetary and performance goals stipulated in the emergence agreement. they will not deviate from this,they can't 😉
this aquisition,merger or marriage was also part of the emergence/reorganization plan.

How about them there raises and bonuses they just handed to Dougie and Co. was that in the plan I doubt it?

 

[insp89]

B)
because it is a major part of the bankruptcy reorganization plan that the court and creditors approved to let U emerge....specific timetables with monetary and performance goals stipulated in the emergence agreement. they will not deviate from this,they can't 😉
this aquisition,merger or marriage was also part of the emergence/reorganization plan.

If "They" cannot deviate from the emergence agreements, Then why is the IAM supposedly in talks with the company on what is termed a "Transition" Agreement ?

Seems to me these talks would be un-neccessary, One would think that the ex-AWA mechanics would simply fall under the IAM contract.

 

[delldude]

If "They" cannot deviate from the emergence agreements, Then why is the IAM supposedly in talks with the company on what is termed a "Transition" Agreement ?

Seems to me these talks would be un-neccessary, One would think that the ex-AWA mechanics would simply fall under the IAM contract.

theres latitude for combining two or more labor groups but don't think for a minute there will be any monetary,scope or bennie gains until '09. if then.