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On 12/13/2002 10:02:20 AM propjok wrote:
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its not an excuse, take a look at your new ta. lets see the wo grt 25 large rjs. We have a total of about 1000 pilots.Getting rid of turbo props were does that put us. we keep getting SHAFTED. there is no reason that we cannot operate all of the jets. if we had even a good portion no body would even complain about j4j because there would be enough jobs to go around yet the ml mec gives a majority of them to mesa and fredom. fredom a non union company go figure. i bet you didnt know that on friday at around 4pm usair made a motion to the bk judge to provide midway with up to 9 mil in dip. they could use the money to put rjs at the wo yet they chose to give it away to somenody else. Dave read the rj ta and tell me how you feel now.
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Like I said earlier, Mgmt. and RSA is calling the shots. Jets at Midway, and freedom etc. USAIR does not pay for these, or the crews (9 mil does not buy many airplanes) You must face it Propjok, the ML pilots are not the ones throwing away your jobs.....I wish we had that kind of power. Dave and management (read RSA) have a plan. I do not think that plan includes 50% of us and 100% of you. But to say that the guys flying the A/C at ML did this!? Would that be the 1800 on the street or the 4000 that took massive pay cuts? Twice. We are all being outsourced, please direct your energy where it would do some good... Send an e-mail to call me Dave
How about setting up a web site like the Junior guys at U did, get some petitions going, etc. The rank and file ML guy did a lot to try and help the WO's get hired and to get jets. It did not work for us, Mgmt still did what they wanted. But who knows, maybe 1000 regional pilots will have more luck than we did.
I am sorry that they are returning a few of your airplanes and I am sorry that 1000 WO pilots might lose their job. So far ML has parked more airplanes and furloughed more pilots than all the WO's operate combined. So of course, that must mean that we ML pilots are calling the shots here......Gee we didn't really want to work anyhow.....We were all just itching to work at Wal-Mart.
Using your logic, I could make a damn good case against the WO pilots as to why so many of us are on the street....Wo's guys are willing to work for peanuts, Flying ML routes etc... But that would not be right, You guys are in the same boat we are.....No say in mgmts plans.
How about all the guys at the Contract Carriers....oooohhhh yea...lets blame them, it's their fault....all those guys willing to pay training contracts and work for even lower wages than the WO's Yea its their fault!!
Wait wait how about the guys that are learning to fly as we speak....its their fault for trying to flood the market with too many pilots for the jobs! or the customers....why those dirty little...It their fault that they don't want to pay $2000 for a 40 min airplane ride.
Let see, we could blame the Arabs, for gas prices, lawyers for high ins. prices, terrorists for even higher ins. prices and additional security costs and delays. The list could be endless.
The point of this is there are many factors as to why the airline industry is in the crapper....But I hate to disappoint you. We are no more to blame than you are. Everybody is just trying to survive here. The airline industry is changing, No one knows what it will look like when its done. I suspect it may end up looking like the computer industry, or the auto industry. 3 or 4 massive powerhouses and a hand full of also rans. U is pretty much done, UA is in bad shape (possibly worse than U, just farther behind.) AA is starting to show lots of cracks.
Southwest...No RJ's, No WO's, No regionals, No furloughs, No problems. I suspect that is the future of air travel.
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