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Teamster's lay the blame on the Bakery, Confectionary, Tobacco and Grain Millers International Union (BCTGM)!

"In fact, when Hostess attempted to throw out its collective bargaining agreement with the Teamsters in court, the Teamsters fought back and won, ensuring that Hostess could not unilaterally make changes to working conditions during the several months’ long legal process that recently ended. Teamster Hostess members were allowed to decide their fate by voting on the final offer conducted by a secret mail ballot. More than two-thirds of Hostess Teamsters members voted with 53 percent voting to approve the final offer.

The BCTGM chose a different path, as is their prerogative, to not substantively look for a solution or engage in the process. BCTGM members were told there were better solutions than the final offer, although Judge Drain stated in his decision in bankruptcy court that no such solutions exist. Without complete information, BCTGM members voted by voice votes in union halls. The BCTGM reported that over 90 percent rejected the final offer and three of its units ratified the final offer.

On Friday, Nov. 9, the BCTGM began to strike at some Hostess production facilities without notice to the Teamsters despite assurances they would not proceed with job actions without contacting the Teamsters Union. This unannounced action put Teamster members in the difficult position of facing picket lines without knowing their right to honor such a line without being disciplined.

As is our longstanding tradition, Teamster members by and large are honoring Bakery Worker picket lines when encountered and complying with their contractual obligations when not encountering picket lines. The BCTGM leaders are putting Teamster members in a horrible position – asking them to support a strike that will put them out of a job when they haven’t even asked all their members to go on strike.

That strike is now on the verge of forcing the company to liquidate – it is difficult for Teamster members to believe that is what the BCTGM Hostess members ultimately wanted to accomplish when they went out on strike. We may never know unless the BCTGM members, based on the facts they know today, get to determine their fate in a secret ballot vote. Teamster members would understand that the will of the BCTGM Hostess membership was truly heard if that was the case."
 
A double cheeseburger is only like a $1.25, show us where you can get a salad for that.

The ingredients may cost more, but the serving sizes, well I can make my own salad for about $1.05. I'm also including my own dressing of olive oil and balsamic vinegar and a few spices.

But if you are going to buy it and find it for less than $1.25, well UNCLE! It can't be done. If it's about healthy meals and you mention fast food, well it's all garbage.
 
The ingredients may cost more, but the serving sizes, well I can make my own salad for about $1.05. I'm also including my own dressing of olive oil and balsamic vinegar and a few spices.

But if you are going to buy it and find it for less than $1.25, well UNCLE! It can't be done. If it's about healthy meals and you mention fast food, well it's all garbage.
I call BS, there is no way you can buy lettuce, tomatoes, onions, oil and vinegar and any other vegetable for $1.25, no way.
 
My reply stems from here:

I find it very strange that Republicans feel the need to attack the FLOTUS for championing children's health issues.

Health issues aren't about McD. Quagmire made a point about being cheaper to buy food at McD than a salad.
 
Teamster's lay the blame on the Bakery, Confectionary, Tobacco and Grain Millers International Union (BCTGM)!

"In fact, when Hostess attempted to throw out its collective bargaining agreement with the Teamsters in court, the Teamsters fought back and won, ensuring that Hostess could not unilaterally make changes to working conditions during the several months’ long legal process that recently ended. Teamster Hostess members were allowed to decide their fate by voting on the final offer conducted by a secret mail ballot. More than two-thirds of Hostess Teamsters members voted with 53 percent voting to approve the final offer.

The BCTGM chose a different path, as is their prerogative, to not substantively look for a solution or engage in the process. BCTGM members were told there were better solutions than the final offer, although Judge Drain stated in his decision in bankruptcy court that no such solutions exist. Without complete information, BCTGM members voted by voice votes in union halls. The BCTGM reported that over 90 percent rejected the final offer and three of its units ratified the final offer.

On Friday, Nov. 9, the BCTGM began to strike at some Hostess production facilities without notice to the Teamsters despite assurances they would not proceed with job actions without contacting the Teamsters Union. This unannounced action put Teamster members in the difficult position of facing picket lines without knowing their right to honor such a line without being disciplined.

As is our longstanding tradition, Teamster members by and large are honoring Bakery Worker picket lines when encountered and complying with their contractual obligations when not encountering picket lines. The BCTGM leaders are putting Teamster members in a horrible position – asking them to support a strike that will put them out of a job when they haven’t even asked all their members to go on strike.

That strike is now on the verge of forcing the company to liquidate – it is difficult for Teamster members to believe that is what the BCTGM Hostess members ultimately wanted to accomplish when they went out on strike. We may never know unless the BCTGM members, based on the facts they know today, get to determine their fate in a secret ballot vote. Teamster members would understand that the will of the BCTGM Hostess membership was truly heard if that was the case."

So the IBT is basically supporting what what E, myself and other have been saying all along? So the BCTGM DID kill Hostess? Sudden the WSJ piece isn't misleading right because a union said the same thing? Guess the IBT is unhappy losing the dues payers but they are in a better position with more members than BCTGM.

Josh
 
I call BS, there is no way you can buy lettuce, tomatoes, onions, oil and vinegar and any other vegetable for $1.25, no way.

Can't grasp portions or servings, huh? A head of romaine $1.00, servings about 5. Plum tomatoes 3 for $1, servings 3. Onions about 29-60 cents a serving. Oil and vinegar is about 40 cents.

Even if it is a few cents more, guess who'll be hungry sooner?
 
Encouraging the following things is a bad thing. Got it.

  • Creating a healthy start for children
  • Empowering parents and caregivers
  • Providing healthy food in schools
  • Improving access to healthy, affordable foods
  • Increasing physical activity

Frankly it matters not if they are good ideas or not. The question is are they the responsibility of the Federal Government?

Liberty can only be achieved when government is denied the aggressive use of force. If one seeks liberty, a precise type of government is needed. To achieve it, more than lip service is required.
Two choices are available.
  1. A government designed to protect liberty—a natural right—as its sole objective. The people are expected to care for themselves and reject the use of any force for interfering with another person’s liberty. Government is given a strictly limited authority to enforce contracts, property ownership, settle disputes, and defend against foreign aggression.
  2. A government that pretends to protect liberty but is granted power to arbitrarily use force over the people and foreign nations. Though the grant of power many times is meant to be small and limited, it inevitably metastasizes into an omnipotent political cancer. This is the problem for which the world has suffered throughout the ages. Though meant to be limited it nevertheless is a 100% sacrifice of a principle that would-be-tyrants find irresistible. It is used vigorously—though incrementally and insidiously. Granting power to government officials always proves the adage that: “power corrupts.”
I choose Liberty and choice number one.
 
So providing education on healthy food choices and assisting schools to provide healthy food alternatives is bad. Yet, you are now paying the hospital bills for indigent care for that fat kid who grew up to be an obese diabetic.

Pay me now, or pay me much more later. Kind of like going to a financial planner after you just blew all of your money at Vegas.

I don't remember Laura Bush being bashed for encouraging literacy. After all, being stupid is a personal choice just like eating healthy.
 
So providing education on healthy food choices and assisting schools to provide healthy food alternatives is bad. Yet, you are now paying the hospital bills for indigent care for that fat kid who grew up to be an obese diabetic.

Pay me now, or pay me much more latter. Kind of like going to a financial planner after you just blew all of your money at Vegas.

Or you can educate the fat parents to make better food choices when feeding their children and themselves, and to tell them that exercise won't kill them. Of course we are going to pay for our fat problem, because while Michelle tackles the impossible, we will be reamed by Obamacare and will make up the difference!
 
But you still have to outlay more than per portion size.
 

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