TWU,TEAMSTERS AND AA

[TRAVIS]

100% correct sir!!!!!!

My goal is IBT SWA 2015 their are so few of you it want take many votes.

 

[TRAVIS]

What's this supposed to mean?

The Black IBT Tee-Shirts, O That"s Right Your Union Can't Afford To Spend Money On Campaigns, Much Less Tee-Shirts.

 

[Anomaly]

Funny how the teamsters believe in date of classification for seniority, but they can't seem to figure out seniority for two teamster represented groups: the UAL mechanics and CAL mechanics?

Kiss my as@ blue collar. The seniority issue at UA has nothing to do with the union. If it was amfa iam twu the issue would still be the same. The iam was the union who was there and ultimately responsible for ALL seniority in regards to the mechanics and related crafts at UA. The federal courts because of the UAL lawsuit have made the determination on UA combined seniority.

There is nothing to "figure out" as the courts have done this for us. All that is needed is for the company to combine the list which is being done with the help from union mechanics representing the different sides. As we do not have a new contract yet, the only ones making it a big deal are you political bottom feeding sociopaths.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Kiss my as@ blue collar. The seniority issue at UA has nothing to do with the union. If it was amfa iam twu the issue would still be the same. The iam was the union who was there and ultimately responsible for ALL seniority in regards to the mechanics and related crafts at UA. The federal courts because of the UAL lawsuit have made the determination on UA combined seniority.

There is nothing to "figure out" as the courts have done this for us. All that is needed is for the company to combine the list which is being done with the help from union mechanics representing the different sides. As we do not have a new contract yet, the only ones making it a big deal are you political bottom feeding sociopaths.

And you can KISS MINE.

How long does it take to put the list together? Consent Decree has been in the agreement for decades. As you say, there is nothing to figure out, why wasn't it done long ago? You don't need a JCBA to put the list together, you only need one to implement it.

 

[Anomaly]

And you can KISS MINE.

How long does it take to put the list together? Consent Decree has been in the agreement for decades. As you say, there is nothing to figure out, why wasn't it done long ago? You don't need a JCBA to put the list together, you only need one to implement it.

On our end, easy. With CO, not so much. They have never tracked consent decree seniority. Pucker up there pal.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

On our end, easy. With CO, not so much. They have never tracked consent decree seniority. Pucker up there pal.

The teamsters were talking about the potential UAL-CAL merger during the UAL teamster campaign. The merger was formally announced in May 2010. So since UAL was already per consent decree, in THREE YEARS TIME, the ibt couldn't and still hasn't worked out CALs side.

Make sure you switch cheeks between your next lame excuse.

 

[700UW]

Travis,

IAM legal has all ready rebuked the false ibt fliers.

 

[700UW]

From the IAM:

Dear Mr, Manicone:

This responds to your letter addressed to me, copied to the NMB and US Airways, and linked in a flyer from the IBT Airline Divisions Director, David Bourne. Your letter simply repeats baseless allegations which the IBT has published to IAM members at US Airways.

Your letter mischaracterizes a brief and contentious encounter in a Charlotte hangar at 3:00am between IBT supporter Jim Blanton and IAM official Will Cashion, which neither you nor I witnessed. However, the language used in your letter belies the reliability of the report you recieved- "Cashion should know... Cashion admitted as much... Cashion acknowledged..." The facts is that Cashion did not say the things that your letter attributes to him, or implies that he said.

Finally, I note that your letter has been published on the IBT website as an obvious propaganda piece in support of the IBT campaign, and as such does not merit further response.

Very truly yours,
David Neigus
ASSOCIATE GENERAL COUNSEL

 

[swamt]

My goal is IBT SWA 2015 their are so few of you it want take many votes.

Yea right. Good luck Travis, it's already been tried twice, by the teamsters, here since AMFA has been here, and then the TWU tried to sneak in thru the F/A's union. Both teamsters and TWU found out very quickly that it would not happened. Even strong teamster supporters told the teamster organizers that it won't happen, as everyone is happy with AMFA. The TWU attempt never even got started. But I would encourage you to let the teamsters go ahead and waste their members dues trying to get in again as they love to spend their members dues on worthless campaigns.

 

[700UW]

Wow, IBT FRAUD!

http://www.thestreet.com/print/story/11986583.html

- The Transport Workers Union claims two Teamster organizers admitted their union submitted forged signatures as it sought to gather enough signed cards to require a representation election among mechanics and related workers at American (AAMRQ.PK).

The International Brotherhood of Teamsters denies the charge. In an email, David Bourne, director of the IBT's airline division, called it "a diversionary scheme to bring the Teamsters into public disrepute."

Late Tuesday, the TWU filed documents including affidavits from two organizers, in advance of a National Mediation Board meeting Wednesday where board officials will hear challenges by the TWU to the signatures gathered by the Teamsters and by both unions to the list of eligible voters submitted by the airline.

In order to have the NMB call an election, a union must submit signatures from 50% plus one of eligible voters.
The meeting had been scheduled for July 16, but was delayed at the Teamsters' request, a TWU spokesman said. The TWU did not say how many signatures were forged. The bargaining unit includes about 11,500 mechanics and related workers.
Names and titles have been redacted from the affidavits. In one, the IBT organizer said, "There were multiple cards from the same workers with different signatures (and) there were authorization cards from at least 1,500 workers who had never been seen, spoken to or assessed." He said the person who submitted the cards had been sent from Tulsa to another site to work for six months before resigning.

In the second affidavit, an organizer said he was told that rather than visit workers another organizer "sat in his car and filled out house call sheets and falsely signed authorization cards." He added, "I was also told that there were situations where one card came in from the real worker and another from (redacted) and they could see the signatures were different." But "IBT chose to ignore the issue," he said.

 

[blue collar]

Because of Dave's avatar....
Are hoods that touchy of a subject since the Zimmerman case or am I missing something?

Never noticed the avatar. Not a touchy subject, just wondering if it meant he wanted him to get shot?

 

[TRAVIS]

Never noticed the avatar. Not a touchy subject, just wondering if it meant he wanted him to get shot?

Not Funny I think that comment is just out of line and should be removed on here. :huh:

 

[blue collar]

Wasn't meant to be funny. That's why I was asking what it meant. Obviously I was reading too much into it. My apologies

 

[Anomaly]

The teamsters were talking about the potential UAL-CAL merger during the UAL teamster campaign. The merger was formally announced in May 2010. So since UAL was already per consent decree, in THREE YEARS TIME, the ibt couldn't and still hasn't worked out CALs side.

Make sure you switch cheeks between your next lame excuse.

Seriously guy? Are you really that dumb-ass who buys the spare tire before he picks out a car?

We still have THREE agreements (counting Air Mic) Where would you suggest this one list you want so bad be placed? There can not be a combined list until there is a combined agreement. Beyond that, from what I understand there are still a couple of matters to be settled that do need a tentative agreement. Our premium seniority for Leads and Inspectors is one, and the adjustment for furlough and other time off at CO is another. UA was not adjusted and CO was under the separate agreements. If CO regains the company time, will they also gain vacation time based on this? Will this affect the overall financial package as it does come at a cost in the eyes of the company? How does the company propose to deal with these issues? There are some other questions that remain opened that must be solved through negotiations before the list can be finalized. Don't you read any of the updates at all? If you did you would not be asking such foolish questions. At least do a little bit of thinking before you post something stupid.

 

[psa8979]

The two UNIONS that have played into the hands of AIRLINE INCS. and destroyed ALL bargaining with the other AIRLINE TRANSPORT UNION MEMBERS and left the AFL-CIO are AMFA and IBT. Only FOOLS ! argue with facts and history .