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Then press your point to separate Overhaul from the Line. Teamsters for Overhaul and AMFA for the line. That should make you happy since you favor the Teamsters and work in Tulsa. This way we are all happy. A Win/Win for you and me. Think that will work? Since The TWU is not objecting to the Teamsters raid they should have no issues with them moving into Tulsa. The TWU already proved that they do not care about the line guys. Wow what a great Idea I just came up with.

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LMAO Early openers are a joke & you know it that was funny though.

But you still believe the powerful Teamsters lie that they can make one happen....don't you?

In fact, is it not true that you voted yes because you believe the Teamsters will be able to force a Section 6 opener on American Airlines?

Or....since you speak for others, how many do you think did believe that lie and voted yes because of that belief?
 
But you still believe the powerful Teamsters lie that they can make one happen....don't you?

In fact, is it not true that you voted yes because you believe the Teamsters will be able to force a Section 6 opener on American Airlines?

The only bigger joke than the early openers is a powerful Teamster drive.
 
But you still believe the powerful Teamsters lie that they can make one happen....don't you?

In fact, is it not true that you voted yes because you believe the Teamsters will be able to force a Section 6 opener on American Airlines?

Or....since you speak for others, how many do you think did believe that lie and voted yes because of that belief?

I didn't say I believe it but IBT said it & it will get Teamster cards signed so that's all that matters.
 
I didn't say I believe it but IBT said it & it will get Teamster cards signed so that's all that matters.

Really? So if even before the Union is certified, they are already fabricating lies, as long as it gets cards signed "that's all that matters"?
What a great way to start a relationship between Leaders and Members.
I am somehow not suprised that you would accept telling lies as a healthy means of obtaining cards.

Afterall, you did buy into TWU lies and voted yes accordingly.
 
Really? So if even before the Union is certified, they are already fabricating lies, as long as it gets cards signed "that's all that matters"?
What a great way to start a relationship between Leaders and Members.
I am somehow not suprised that you would accept telling lies as a healthy means of obtaining cards.

Afterall, you did buy into TWU lies and voted yes accordingly.

I didn't say IBT was Lying I just said I didn't say I believed it whether or not I believe they can open the contract after certification is irrelevant, they said they can & I have no proof that they can't & I believe people will sign cards based on that hope.
hope makes people believe a lot of things, I think there is a small chance that IBT will get enough cards, zero chance that AMFA will get a enough cards but most likely the TWU will remain at AA
 
I didn't say IBT was Lying I just said I didn't say I believed it whether or not I believe they can open the contract after certification is irrelevant, they said they can & I have no proof that they can't & I believe people will sign cards based on that hope.
hope makes people believe a lot of things, I think there is a small chance that IBT will get enough cards, zero chance that AMFA will get a enough cards but most likely the TWU will remain at AA

Keep thinking that. We are almost there now.
 
I didn't say I believe it but IBT said it & it will get Teamster cards signed so that's all that matters.


Don't you realize that any relationship thats is built on lie usually has little chance of being successful?
so according to you, the IBT can lie about them legally forcing American Airlines into early openers if they are elected as our bargaining agent and thats ok as long as they get teamster cards signed?
explain this rational so i understand it?
 
Keep thinking that. We are almost there now.

LMAO you said that in 2003 too & you said the 2010 contract would pass & this last contract that passed would fail don't you ever get tired of being wrong, your predictions are never accurate. :lol: 😀 :lol: 😛
 
LMAO you said that in 2003 too & you said the 2010 contract would pass & this last contract that passed would fail don't you ever get tired of being wrong, your predictions are never accurate. :lol: 😀 :lol: 😛

Not really. I feel secure in my beliefs. At least you know that I don't own a crystal ball like you have.

We filed in 2003
I never said the 2010 would pass, I said it would only get worse if it failed. And it did.

And this one should have failed by a margin like the Pilots had.

So twist up like a pretzel all you want, but the facts are clear.
 
Tulsa mechanic 9

you think 48 votes = victory........think again


only a fool believes in " testing the depth of the water with both feet"
 
The IBT sold the same promise to the UA Mechanics, guess what it didnt happen, UA laughed them off.
 
http://www.tulsaworl...E1_CUTLIN161530

Oh Hewitt forgot to mention during his meetings that there was AMTs that could bump into Tulsa. But now he remembers.

In the article it says:

"In purely economic terms, the impact on the city will be lessened slightly by Texans moving here and buying homes, but the situation also means some longtime Tulsans will be put out of work and may lose their houses if they can't find other positions."

Who's to say Texans would be moving there and buying homes? Atleast not right away, and i bet a bunch wont move at all. I work with a few MCI guys that commute every weekend between AFW and MCI! Tulsans will loose their jobs and have little money to help drive the tulsa economy, Texans working in Tulsa will be sending most of their money back home to Their families in Texas!
 
"market wage readjustment - based on industry compensation - after 36 months"

If the industry readjusts itself do to our contract, Is there a good chance we could be taking another pay cut after 36 months? :huh:

AA got the gold mine, We got the Shaft!
 

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