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Did you vote for Siri or Hewitt? Neither are AMT's according to your requirement for an A&P.
Why would you vote for a contract endorsed by non-A&P's, if you didn't have enough faith in voting for them?
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Did you vote for Siri or Hewitt? Neither are AMT's according to your requirement for an A&P.
Why would you vote for a contract endorsed by non-A&P's, if you didn't have enough faith in voting for them?
Tulsamechanic9
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I'm looking forward to when he gets back in, as you know he doesn't hold back & isn't afraid to call someone a coward, I wouldn't do it myself but he has balz & doesn't mind pissing someone off & letting them know who & where he is if they don't like it LOL ;-) Raptorman if your reading this the guys in here really want you back so hurry up & get back in. lol
Odie, you have to give it up, there is no way to uproot TWU. The vote should tell u that. I'm sorry.
Never give up. You are wrong!!
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AMFA is NOT a Mechanics run union it also has all the same groups that the Mechanic craft & class has like welders, Machinists, Aircraft cleaners, parts washers, osm etc. the list goes on & on & all of them can be officers just like with the Teamsters, the NMB decides who is in our craft & class not us so since any of those job groups can be officers we might as well have the Teamsters. ;-)
since AMFA supporters are not signing Teamster cards (well except Dave) ;-) I won't sign an AMFA card.
Real name and seniority date to go behind the mouth please?
Bob you really need to realize you are not competing in some reality show like Survivor where you build factions and manufacture information with a twist of fabrication from half truths. One thing you need to realize or remember is as much as you have shared your vast knowledge of how you know that the TWU International is in all levels of managements pocket and how they do the companies bidding on everything. Why would they even think about approaching you about anything instead of Management just giving Jim Little a call on the supposed 2 way direct hotline to have him get Overhaul and Line Contracts split immediately. According to you International makes everything they need to happen anyway minus locals input no matter whether they concur or not. I am sure if this were true you would have told the world before now in one of your tell all informing the mechanics to try to secure No Vote posts.
Yourself and your cohorts especially Peterson are totally in favor of a split. In fact one of your negotiating team faction members said it in a room of Union only negotiators.
You stated "Sam let the line stations know that he felt that the line mechanics had no right to try and share their opinions on the contract with his guys". If even true I would be willing to bet that statement is taken out of context or the whole story isn't included.
Last week or the week before you were being called out on your Line vs Overhaul which was invariably met with your posts that there is no hatred of Overhaul and no plan if Line were to outnumber Overhaul. I see how you are trying to make it out like it all just came about because the way this vote went.
As much as your stories have changed I am beginning to think you have a hard time remembering what you have typed in the past because Contradiction seems to be your middle name. Although I really thought you possessed decent qualities of being a leader, but you seem to be showing your true colors of playing both ends toward the middle and don't seem to take into account anyone that gets sacrificed in the process. Sam Cirri has more positive leadership qualities in his little finger then you seem to have on your best day by being Genuine and truthful and cares about the membership as a whole which anyone can argue and put their spin on it. At the end of the day he and John did the best that they could with the cards that were dealt and having to watch theirs and our backs from your faction trying to play like I said your idiotic Survivor type games when you are playing with livelihoods in the world we live in today that is less forgiving than it was a few years ago. You also may have a few people in TULE profusely apologizing thinking you are great and out for their best interests but you don't have everyone fooled. Where do you and others get off thinking Line is above Overhaul when it actually goes hand in hand when done right just look at the successful carriers that have their variation. Both entities are fairly equal in pay.
Owens & Peterson = Two fortune tellers that used their divine guidance to recommend that the 2010 T/A should be dumped so they could get management to improve on it! Now that is a joke. Anyone with common sense should understand the 2010 T/A was a much better deal than the 2012 T/A was. The ironic part is that both of them continued to point out how much money we’ve lost in the intervening years, and they were the ones trying everything they could to convince the members to vote No!
Peterson apparently also predicted that AA would never file for bankruptcy, and then they did.
These two continued to exercise their amazing negotiating skills by forecasting that if we followed their vote No advice again, and the Judge abrogated our contract, management would either impose the rejected T/A on us, or be forced to improve it in the future! It would be funny if a lot of legitimate members didn't fall for their self-serving crap.
If you get the impression that both of these “leaders” are out of touch with reality, you’re not alone. I’ll have to admit they were pretty good actors though when they were on you-tube. Who knows, they might have a bright future in the movies.
BTW I'd like to hear again from Owens and Peterson as to their support for Ovhl AMTs. I may have missed one of their tongue-in-cheek sales pitches and I need a good laugh.
Yourself and your cohorts especially Peterson are totally in favor of a split. In fact one of your negotiating team faction members said it in a room of Union only negotiators.
You stated "Sam let the line stations know that he felt that the line mechanics had no right to try and share their opinions on the contract with his guys". If even true I would be willing to bet that statement is taken out of context or the whole story isn't included.
Last week or the week before you were being called out on your Line vs Overhaul which was invariably met with your posts that there is no hatred of Overhaul and no plan if Line were to outnumber Overhaul. I see how you are trying to make it out like it all just came about because the way this vote went.
As much as your stories have changed I am beginning to think you have a hard time remembering what you have typed in the past because Contradiction seems to be your middle name. Although I really thought you possessed decent qualities of being a leader, but you seem to be showing your true colors of playing both ends toward the middle and don't seem to take into account anyone that gets sacrificed in the process. Sam Cirri has more positive leadership qualities in his little finger then you seem to have on your best day by being Genuine and truthful and cares about the membership as a whole which anyone can argue and put their spin on it. At the end of the day he and John did the best that they could with the cards that were dealt and having to watch theirs and our backs from your faction trying to play like I said your idiotic Survivor type games when you are playing with livelihoods in the world we live in today that is less forgiving than it was a few years ago. You also may have a few people in TULE profusely apologizing thinking you are great and out for their best interests but you don't have everyone fooled. Where do you and others get off thinking Line is above Overhaul when it actually goes hand in hand when done right just look at the successful carriers that have their variation. Both entities are fairly equal in pay.
Owens & Peterson = Two fortune tellers that used their divine guidance to recommend that the 2010 T/A should be dumped so they could get management to improve on it! Now that is a joke. Anyone with common sense should understand the 2010 T/A was a much better deal than the 2012 T/A was. The ironic part is that both of them continued to point out how much money we’ve lost in the intervening years, and they were the ones trying everything they could to convince the members to vote No!
Peterson apparently also predicted that AA would never file for bankruptcy, and then they did.
These two continued to exercise their amazing negotiating skills by forecasting that if we followed their vote No advice again, and the Judge abrogated our contract, management would either impose the rejected T/A on us, or be forced to improve it in the future! It would be funny if a lot of legitimate members didn't fall for their self-serving crap.
If you get the impression that both of these “leaders” are out of touch with reality, you’re not alone. I’ll have to admit they were pretty good actors though when they were on you-tube. Who knows, they might have a bright future in the movies.
BTW I'd like to hear again from Owens and Peterson as to their support for Ovhl AMTs. I may have missed one of their tongue-in-cheek sales pitches and I need a good laugh.
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No I did not vote for either of them & I didn't vote for the contract because they or anyone else endorsed it, I voted for it because it was the best deal under the circumstances of Bankruptcy, you never win in bankruptcy it's all about minimizing the losses in pay, Benefits & jobs as best you can.
I don't want you to sign an AMFA card. And your senario on how and who i becomes offficers is completely false, and untruthfull. You need to get a little familier with AMFA before you spout off. You are only making yourself look worse, which will help the AMFA drive as you are for the pathetic ibt or at least anyone but TWU, how pathetic.
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You are as unskilled as Tulsamechanic9, and are content and selfish
No I'm not Odie. The vote told me that there r too many factions and self interest groups in the A&P workgroup to unite under one flag. I wish it was different.
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Hurry your lady needs you he can't handle the responding to the crap he started. And on my last day here I'd love to meet you both
