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I am gonna poise this to you again phx_it.

Do you realize the east employees have given billions in concessions since 2002?

Thousand of jobs, loss of pensions and loss of retiree healthcare.

And the West has had the lowest pay scales in the industry for years.

Apparently you havent been here long.

So you want to add insult to injury?
 
I take it that no one likes the idea of charging $30 for non-rev.
charge for pillow&blanket...that way the pax will take the nasty things with them and f/a's will not have to deal with them...I am sure Target Bed Bath or somone would put there logo on it to make a $...our flight bennies are the only true perk we have left to start charging for them would open a whole nother can of worms...
 
Here's something management NEVER thought of. Offer good service and value for the dollar. How about on time flights? Just because it's cheap doesn't mean people are happy to pay it. It's a VALUE thing.
 
While this has veered a little, I agree with Oldie's point. If the product were decent and the operation were sound, I think people would pay a bit more. But it isn't so they aren't, etc. etc. This company has proven over and over that they are shortsighted, penny wise and pound foolish. It's about VALUE.

Speaking of which, I recently had the opportunity to try Airtran. My trip report is in their forum. With the exception of some poor service on the first leg (actually below the lowered expectations they set), their product was close to what they said it would be (far below the majors), yet they were operationally superior to US (had a plan for dealing with an irregular op, and acted PROactively). All flights closed and pushed about 10 min prior to schedule, and all but one (inbound late) were early arrivals.

It's still the fares, stupid--and all the nickel and diming is not going to fix that fundamental problem--which is industry wide.

Price according to what it actually costs--it needs to happen...Time for the airline industry to get real.
 
What about charging employees for a higher boarding priority for one segment? Say, $20 or $40 or whatever it was in that post? It's not charging to travel, it's charging for a little more convenience, and I'm sorry - - maybe I'm not burnt out enough to throw a hissy about this, but if you tell me that there's 12 sa3's in the 80's hire date ahead of me and I need to get to PHX for something important, you'd better believe I'd shell out a small fee to jump ahead of them.

I can't afford to BUY a freaking ticket making these wages?
You guys get mad now but I bet 80% of you would sell out and pay the nominal fee if it was during your vacation and you really wanted to get there.

I would think that this as well as charging to non-rev would go against some contracts. The WEST FAs just won an ruling that the company could not change their non-rev policy.

I would think time negotiating any fees for non-revs could be better spent getting a combined FA contract.

I think removing pillows and blankets from the flights would be an excellent idea. They are nasty and it is for the pax own good! LOL, sell them outside the gate areas for a reasonable price.
 
No one should even be responding to this thread and here is why. Before the merger we had contests at HP: Ideas that Fly. We submit ideas that would save the company money$$$. Winners receive positive space tickets of their choice. In a recent issue of the US Weekly I think someone asked in the Q&A why don't we do this program again their response was costs too much money to run the program. Since we know corporate reads this.... DON'T GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS!!! Employees feel engaged when their opinions are valued. Obviously US doesn't value our opinions. Tell me if I'm wrong Morgan?
 
I agree with someone who said charge for non-revs. Too many of our employees jump a flight to have dinner in SFO.
Sure it's a great benifit, but people abuse it. Why add weight to the airplane just to eat and add weight to yourself.

Charge a nominal $30 charge. It won't hurt the employees, it'll help the bottom line and it'll keep people from just hopping around for no reason.

Or start them off at SA7P and for $20 dollars move up to an SA3P and for $20 more an SA2P.


Suggested by a true non-commuter. <_<
 
Things we can do to make revenue:

1) Sell adaptors so people can use their own single prong headsets on our double prong headphone jacks.

2) Service charge for ordering special meals. (Kosher, vegetarian, Asian vegetarian, kosher Asian non lactose vegetarian..., etc. (It’s a game; they only want it if you don't have it!)

3) Match Southwest's boarding system. Charge extra to be in group "A", groups B & C get what's left.

4) Charge extra for special assistance. Unless you can verify that you truly are disabled and unable to safely make it to connecting gates and/or baggage claim.
How many people board on wheelchairs and miraculously have no need for chairs or assistance on the arriving end.
5) (this is going to make me popular)- no special service line in customs for wheelchairs. They are sitting down anyway. Again, many (not all) use this as a scam to bypass long lines and take advantage of preboarding.
 
No, I just said that weight costs money. You didn't read it right.



Didn't realize there are actually people who commute by plane just to get to work. Something I personally would never do.

And by the way, I fully understood your post. I just find it appalling that anyone would suggest more employee "give-backs."


Are you kidding me? I would safely say 40-60% of the flight attendant & pilots in the East Coast do not live where they are based. For many reasons including Base closures and those affected don't choose to live in the domiciles that are available. We have families that we don't want to or can't uproot every time the company makes another base closure. It's easy for the company to forget we have roots in our hometowns and can't just pack up every time they get an itch in there a--!
 
Are you kidding me? I would safely say 40-60% of the flight attendant & pilots in the East Coast do not live where they are based. For many reasons including Base closures and those affected don't choose to live in the domiciles that are available. We have families that we don't want to or can't uproot everytime the company makes another base closure. It's easy for the company to forget we have roots in our hometowns and can't just pack up everytime they get a itch in there a--!

Back to the original post because this has derailed here.

The reason I suggested charging the fee was to make it more likely to get a seat in stand-by.
Those that commute for business or to get to work would be exempt.

I also gave an alternative of paying to get a better priority. This would still allow people to fly for free but allow other to get a better priority if they really needed to get on a plane.

All these suggestions were to make it easier to get a seat flying stand-by.

Replying in a civil way as to why this is bad is fine, but try to keep it civil.
 
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