With Or Without Employees?

[PITbull]

Honestly, do you really think that U will be looking for additional wage RATE reductions with CWA? Maybe a slight seniority give back, but it can't be a deal breaker. I'd doubt that ALPA would really make a big deal about it. Certainly, the new business model will just eliminate the need for a lot of CWA jobs, right? And with the 'mainline express' provisions, it just doesn't seem to be much moulah in RATE reductions. The business plan will take care of CWA.

Finally, I remember reading that there is a annual wage rate floor, below which the company will not cut. Maybe that has changed.

Yea, won't take it below the wage rate line or poverty line, which is MIN. wage.

Thanks Row, you are such a lack of inspriation on here. When I read your lack of sensitivity with the employees, it makes me want to puke.

 

[USFlyer]

The group with the most to lose is by far is management. I can see the ad now...

You're kidding, right? Everyone in CCY will be just fine if US goes under. Many if not all of those folks have skills that can be readily applied in other industries. Plus, the unemployment rate in the DC area is under 4 percent, so jobs are not difficult to find in this area.

 

[USFlyer]

When she confronted her teacher as to why she didn't get the job, her teacher told her that the attorney was hesitant to hire her, even though she was more qualified than the other girl, because she was still employed with USAirways. As you can imagine she was quite devastated.

I find this reason hard to believe, if for no other reason than employers rarely if ever reveal why a candidate was not selected. There's way too much legal liability in doing so, and for a lawyer to do this is even stranger. Regardless, if one is furloughed, I would submit s/he can claim s/he is not "employed."

 

[RowUnderDCA]

Yea, won't take it below the wage rate line or poverty line, which is MIN. wage.

Thanks Row, you are such a lack of inspriation on here. When I read your lack of sensitivity with the employees, it makes me want to puke.

Hey, PitBull-

Here's one more item for your list of things that you expect but don't really deserve: sensitivity on the internet.

Oh, and then there's the list of things that you demand but that can't be delivered... .that's a WHOLE different list.

 

[cavalier]

I find this reason hard to believe, if for no other reason than employers rarely if ever reveal why a candidate was not selected. There's way too much legal liability in doing so, and for a lawyer to do this is even stranger. Regardless, if one is furloughed, I would submit s/he can claim s/he is not "employed."

Since you are calling people liars call me one, too. I too can cite the exact same thing occurring with two fellow co-workers competing for a good job. One was still employed although close to being furloughed the other was furloughed. The furloughed one got the job while the other was told even though he had more experience they felt hiring an unemployed individual was the proper thing to do. This employer told him that! There is indeed a government-sponsored program that awards employers who hire jobless individuals.

So believe what you want but this is fact. I worked with both of these guys.

 

[PITbull]

Hey, PitBull-

Here's one more item for your list of things that you expect but don't really deserve: sensitivity on the internet.

Oh, and then there's the list of things that you demand but that can't be delivered... .that's a WHOLE different list.

Row,

Here's look'in at you kid... :down:

 

[speedlever]

On the employment issue, I can tell you from personal experience that I've had doors figuratively slammed in my face once the prospective employer heard the magic words, "furloughed airline employee."

 

[Busdrvr]

On the employment issue, I can tell you from personal experience that I've had doors figuratively slammed in my face once the prospective employer heard the magic words, "furloughed airline employee."

When explaining away the last five years of my life, i find "I was incarcerated at a federal penal institution" to be a better answer... 😉

 

[Reservation Agent]

He must be dreaming if he thinks he can run an airline without employees...The airline is out of bankruptcy, now...he can't ignore all union contracts...

If the airline can turn it around... it has to be from: growth, expansion, customer confidence....If the success or failure is again on the backs of the employees, ....the employees have already done their part...

It is his turn to run the airline properly or get someone in there that knows something about the airline business...

I don't believe the employees would vote for any more concessions....

"Good nite, Gracie"...

 

[bobcat]

USFlyer,

I do not appreciate being called a liar. It did happen as was told. The person involved has a very good rapport with her teacher and whether ethical or legal her teacher did divulge to her that was the reason she was not hired. Apparently the attorney did not want to take the chance of hiring her and then her returning to "active duty" with US. I don't see what legal liability that would have. It would be a problem if the reason was due to gender, race, religion or sexual orientation but, not for this reason.

 

[firstamendment]

I hear alot of big talk of "I can do this or that" or "I don't need this place" or "let it die". Before you get TOO cocky, you just may want to venture out there and see what is actually out there, polish your resume',and have an interview just for the experience. Who knows, you just might find that better job or company and can move on.
I'm inclined to think that most out here can do nothing more and just want to complain. If the opposite were true, you would have sooo many offers you wouldn't have time to complain or carry the US Airways torch. If those of you who are so "skilled" indeed are, why wait? Good gosh, if I were in that position, I would kick US to the curb and would be on here bragging about that wonderful skilled job that I have with lots of money, benefits, and flexibility.
...And then graciously bid all farewell and start a new chapter that exclude US Airways.

 

[700UW]

Apparantly you are not a US employee and you have no idea of what the employees have given back, the job loss only to see the pathetic CEOs and worthless executives walk away with millions.

 

[mbmbbost]

Apparantly you are not a US employee and you have no idea of what the employees have given back, the job loss only to see the pathetic CEOs and worthless executives walk away with millions.

I thought Firstamendment had quite a history with US, and am surprised you'd say that....one should look at his posts.

 

[ktflyhome]

I believe FirstAmendment is a F/A with USAirways for quite some time now.

 

[firstamendment]

Apparantly you are not a US employee and you have no idea of what the employees have given back, the job loss only to see the pathetic CEOs and worthless executives walk away with millions.

700UW,

My friend, where have you been? I have been around here for awhile...17 years as a matter of fact.

You apparently read something into this that wasn't. Check back over the last two years at all the cocky, smart *** talk about all the great skills and how such and such doesn't need US Airways. You TOTALLY missed the point!!

If indeed you, or anyone for that matter, has such wonderful skills that can take you to the level of pay and benefits you want, why not go? What keeps those "skilled" folks here? Loyalty? Concern? If so, thank you, but don't worry about the fine folks here. Go on and fly (no pun intended).

I come on here because I still like this lifestyle called the f/a. I think 100% of f/a's and pilots know what I mean. I'm not there yet to leave this industry, so I do have alot at stake. BUT, if I were a nurse, licensed, and had HAD it with the company and talked about how I could work the same type of schedule, make more money, etc., YEAH, I would be out of here. BTW, PITBULL, this was not in reference to you. My sis is a nurse.

It's not the being concerned. It's the relentless attitude that I can do anything and grumbling.

Lastly, please, everyone has given and given alot. Our contracts have given something back each time up for the last 15/17 years, so the f/a's know about sacrifice and YES, I do my share of complaining and going off. But you have not and will not hear me mouth off at all the great skills I have and how the world would somehow hire me in a second.

Having said that, I AM preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.

I hope we all are.

Yours, First A 🙄