You guys are just victims, lets get the rape kit out and check whos fuckin who
American Airlines and Labor Negotiations
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Please,
If we are going to continue to fight each other, at least get the internal battle right.
The IAM AMT’s are not the TWU AMT problem
The problem is Sito Pantoja, Alex Garcia, and Fleet Service combined with the Industrial Union Philosophy of dividing the economic pie.
Compare the AA M&R proposal to UAL M&R agreement.
It is clear that to obtain industry leading we would have to separate ourselves from the “ground worker” and negotiate a M&R pie.
It is clear that if we signed cards, voted in a Craft Union for Mechanics that on day one the company M&R proposal would improve. Our piece of economic pie is being given to other work groups because of our affiliation in this Association.
Stop fighting each other, sign the cards, get a Mechanic craft union and we will see better results.
Stay in this Association and plan on less than industry leading to fund the other ground workers contract details.
It’s not rocket science
Why wouldn’t you prefer a craft specific union over this catch all ground worker cluster?
If we are going to continue to fight each other, at least get the internal battle right.
The IAM AMT’s are not the TWU AMT problem
The problem is Sito Pantoja, Alex Garcia, and Fleet Service combined with the Industrial Union Philosophy of dividing the economic pie.
Compare the AA M&R proposal to UAL M&R agreement.
It is clear that to obtain industry leading we would have to separate ourselves from the “ground worker” and negotiate a M&R pie.
It is clear that if we signed cards, voted in a Craft Union for Mechanics that on day one the company M&R proposal would improve. Our piece of economic pie is being given to other work groups because of our affiliation in this Association.
Stop fighting each other, sign the cards, get a Mechanic craft union and we will see better results.
Stay in this Association and plan on less than industry leading to fund the other ground workers contract details.
It’s not rocket science
Why wouldn’t you prefer a craft specific union over this catch all ground worker cluster?
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TWU informer
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Do you really believe that the contract language will read a job for the rest of your life? When the agreement becomes amendable then yes even the job security clause is subject to negotiated changes. You people are parsing words and demanding unrealistic language.
Meanwhile you currently have zero job security and are more at risk than current proposal offers. You are refusing improvements while living worse than offered. Keep pushing and losing. We will never recover what is being lost while you demand what will never happen.
Oh great, Charlie Bear false witness Brown is back speaking lies since the womb til this day! Congratulations on your incredible consistency and hot streak but save us the "poor ole IAM had no choice" garbage. You and your people knew and know what you're doing
texasreb
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Then why don't we vote on the Association and then see who the majority is.
Kev3188
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They always do.
And right after that, maybe a vote on whether guys like CB should keep the massive raise they just got...
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If the contract states that you will have a job until you retire and since the contract becomes amendable any article is subject to change and therefore having that job, what is your complaint?
NYer
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Interesting how they don't mention the card drive they were in the middle of that pushed the Association to existence.
You mean this drive?
"One thing is for certain: a TWU-IAM partnership will fail. It will not derail our drive for the strong Teamster representation we need and deserve at AA and US Airways. Let’s stay strong and stick together.
GO TEAMSTERS!"
https://teamster.org/content/do-math-twu-iam-disaster-aa-us-air-mechanics-0
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