American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

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When AAL stock was low at about $25.20 I considered purchasing, but my intent was to use my brokerage account at Fidelity.
What I did not know is that that not allowed. Your AAL stock purchase will have to be made at your respective broker.
 
You can use fidelity, just not in the 401k. I have a personal account, IRA and Trust accounts all with fidelity and the 401k. I can buy AA in all the others.
 
I vote to slide NYC and LA into their respective oceans...

I can assure you that the rest of the nation would be ok if Tulsa just fell into a giant sink hole.

Being from Oklahoma you should be grateful to NY and CA, both states are supplementing all the federal handouts Oklahoma gets.

Time for you to realize there’s more to America then just Oklahoma.
 
Self help? You do know what self help is? We are released to go on our own. We just had a mechanic go off on his own. He took things to a unimaginable level that got him locked up in a federal jail. Self help is a long way down the road and I doubt we will be close enough to see that option. Self help? LOL

I would love to be a free agent at AA, if AA decided to screw me so be it, at least I’m not paying the association to work at AA. If the majority of AA mechs voted for joint representation so be it, but this form of extortion is none of our choice. I have yet to come across any mech or union official that thinks association is a good idea.
 
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I would love to be a free agent at AA, if AA decided to screw me so be it, at least I’m not paying the association to work at AA. If the majority of AA mechs voted for joint representation so be it, but this form of extortion is none of our choice. I have yet to come across any mech or union official that thinks association is a good idea.
Just like when a contract passes, you can't find anyone who voted YES.
 
The International ownes all contractual agreements. No vote by the membership is needed. If the International wants a contract to pass all they do is sign off on it.
It's about money and always will be.
If anyone doesn't like it then quit.
We tried several card drives and that has failed. So suck it up boys. What the International wants, the International gets.
Hopefully, workers are given a choice to opt out without paying a dime. That will be the most pro union thing to do as it ought to keep the union accountable and stop being an extension of management and thievery.
 
Contracts aren't voted on using an electoral college, he soundly lost the popular vote.
you are correct, just think if the popular vote was used we would be ruled by California and new york. just think having alexandria ocasio-cortez AND talib representing all of us! everything would be free, free i tell you!
 
you are correct, just think if the popular vote was used we would be ruled by California and new york. just think having alexandria ocasio-cortez AND talib representing all of us! everything would be free, free i tell you!
Just think what really did happen, not your rhetoric, George W not winning popular vote, Great Recession and Iraq war, that we are still dealing with, and of course trump the national embarrassment.
 
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Hopefully, workers are given a choice to opt out without paying a dime. That will be the most pro union thing to do as it ought to keep the union accountable and stop being an extension of management and thievery.

I don't like the Association concept, but think it would be totally asinine to have no union. Talk about cutting your nose off despite your face! If that's what you're wanting, just go into management and you will have it.
 
I can assure you that the rest of the nation would be ok if Tulsa just fell into a giant sink hole.

Being from Oklahoma you should be grateful to NY and CA, both states are supplementing all the federal handouts Oklahoma gets.

Time for you to realize there’s more to America then just Oklahoma.

Just looking for someone to bite and it was easy...
 
Just looking for someone to bite and it was easy...
I appreciate that, I like pointing out the hypocrisy of the so-called conservative states You know the ones that are the takers and love the socialist aspect of unions. If AA went bankrupt again and closed TULE and AAR took over the OH facility, I’m betting y’all wouldn’t be making $45 an hour and going to hooters. TULE should really just thank the line mechs in CA and NY for the forced socialism so you can make what you make.

That being said, the smartest thing this executive team is doing for the long term viability of this airline is bringing the 787 work to TULE, should do that with the 777, AA should really invest in the long term care of their biggest assets ( including employees)

All you have to do is look at the condition of the 727s when they were retired compared to the 767s being retired now.
 
I appreciate that, I like pointing out the hypocrisy of the so-called conservative states You know the ones that are the takers and love the socialist aspect of unions. If AA went bankrupt again and closed TULE and AAR took over the OH facility, I’m betting y’all wouldn’t be making $45 an hour and going to hooters. TULE should really just thank the line mechs in CA and NY for the forced socialism so you can make what you make.

That being said, the smartest thing this executive team is doing for the long term viability of this airline is bringing the 787 work to TULE, should do that with the 777, AA should really invest in the long term care of their biggest assets ( including employees)

All you have to do is look at the condition of the 727s when they were retired compared to the 767s being retired now.
American has been at Tulsa for a long time, longer than probably either of us has been employed at American.
Why does the TWU require a closed shop? I do not dislike unionism and perhaps the unionism of old won some very important items. Today however and even in our tenure Industrial Unionism has been only a political money machine. Surely you meant "closed TULE and AAR took over the OH facility" OK? By the way, I do not recall ever going to Hooters but perhaps once to try their Hot Wings. How about Tulsa thanking the entire group of Line Mechanics? That is the problem with your version or vision of Socialism if someone doesn't see it your way they are wrong. Force Socialism would be more define as Communism. It is perfectly alright even in our Republic to have an anti-American position. As for the mechanic wages at the airlines, you should thank those at Southwest for raising your wages so you can stay in your states where your taxes are extremely high. Tulsa will always be open. It may not be American but when the city, county, and the state "insist" that American stay then it more than likely it will be. All of the historic aircraft you listed were Overhauled and or repaired at many places but mainly Tulsa. I know they have been overhauled in Tulsa for the last 35 years and the "executive team" did not bring the 787 to Tulsa alone.
 
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