TheRealSaabmeister
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Just heard it on the news, confirmation on the F/A's website at nwaafa.org
I hope the F/A's actually do something with this.
I hope the F/A's actually do something with this.
Judge Rules NWA F/A's Have Right To Strike
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It seems like give them 10 more days. Did they give any good reason for the postponement other than last weeks events? Im still trying to figure out what that has to do with CHAOS. You would think it would emphasize the need for well paid professionals if done in conjunction with last weeks events and also acknowledge their f/a's additonal risks and responsibilities based on these situations.
I'm not big on the idea of striking as it's more of a mafia tactic, but since it is legal it's good to see the judge rule appropriately. You should have the same right to take action in bankruptcy as you do outside...especially when dealing with a company that takes a harder stance than others. It is unfortunate that the union has given so much lead time. I wonder if it's more of a way to tell the membership that the giveback really are necessary but the members don't buy it...only time will tell.
If AFA had just kept things as is, It might have been able to negotiate a fair deal with NWA. The company will now appeal and maybe get an injunction. Putting the FA's with no leverage again. Unless of course that was the AFA plan from the beginning.
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Judge rules Northwest attendants can strike
Aug. 17, 2006
Associated Press
MINNEAPOLIS — A federal bankruptcy judge today denied a Northwest Airlines Corp. request to block a strike by its flight attendants that could begin as soon as Aug. 25.
Northwest immediately said it would appeal.
Judge Allan Gropper in New York wrote that he does not have the authority to block a strike as Northwest had requested.
Flight attendants have said they may begin random, unannounced strikes after 9:01 p.m. CDT Aug. 25 unless Northwest negotiates a new contract with them. Northwest imposed pay cuts and work rules on flight attendants last month after they voted down a negotiated settlement.
"Now, Northwest management has one more chance. They have the choice to either set greed aside for once and agree to a fair and equitable contract, or they will face CHAOS," the union's acronym for "create havoc around our system," said Mollie Reiley, who runs the Northwest branch of the Association of Flight Attendants. "Management needs to reduce their demands and do it in a hurry."
The union has not said what kind of strike it plans; it could range from occasional, unannounced strikes at specific gates or flights to a full-scale walkout. The idea is that even small-scale disruptions can cause passengers to book away from an airline, giving the union leverage.
Northwest sought to downplay the risk of disruptions.
"While we are disappointed with Judge Gropper's ruling and will appeal it, we remain committed to continuing to serve our customers professionally and transporting them to their destinations safely and reliably. Our customers can continue to book Northwest with confidence," Northwest Chief Executive Doug Steenland said.
Gropper wrote that federal labor law generally bars federal courts from blocking strikes. And nothing in bankruptcy law overrides that, wrote Gropper, who is overseeing Northwest's reorganization under Chapter 11.
In the same ruling, Gropper denied the union's request to force Northwest to impose a different contract that was more favorable to workers.
Northwest has negotiated settlements with its other large unions, but flight attendants have twice voted down negotiated deals that would have saved the airline $195 million a year. Flight attendants have said Northwest has asked for cuts that were too large.
Aug. 17, 2006
Associated Press
MINNEAPOLIS — A federal bankruptcy judge today denied a Northwest Airlines Corp. request to block a strike by its flight attendants that could begin as soon as Aug. 25.
Northwest immediately said it would appeal.
Judge Allan Gropper in New York wrote that he does not have the authority to block a strike as Northwest had requested.
Flight attendants have said they may begin random, unannounced strikes after 9:01 p.m. CDT Aug. 25 unless Northwest negotiates a new contract with them. Northwest imposed pay cuts and work rules on flight attendants last month after they voted down a negotiated settlement.
"Now, Northwest management has one more chance. They have the choice to either set greed aside for once and agree to a fair and equitable contract, or they will face CHAOS," the union's acronym for "create havoc around our system," said Mollie Reiley, who runs the Northwest branch of the Association of Flight Attendants. "Management needs to reduce their demands and do it in a hurry."
The union has not said what kind of strike it plans; it could range from occasional, unannounced strikes at specific gates or flights to a full-scale walkout. The idea is that even small-scale disruptions can cause passengers to book away from an airline, giving the union leverage.
Northwest sought to downplay the risk of disruptions.
"While we are disappointed with Judge Gropper's ruling and will appeal it, we remain committed to continuing to serve our customers professionally and transporting them to their destinations safely and reliably. Our customers can continue to book Northwest with confidence," Northwest Chief Executive Doug Steenland said.
Gropper wrote that federal labor law generally bars federal courts from blocking strikes. And nothing in bankruptcy law overrides that, wrote Gropper, who is overseeing Northwest's reorganization under Chapter 11.
In the same ruling, Gropper denied the union's request to force Northwest to impose a different contract that was more favorable to workers.
Northwest has negotiated settlements with its other large unions, but flight attendants have twice voted down negotiated deals that would have saved the airline $195 million a year. Flight attendants have said Northwest has asked for cuts that were too large.
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That's an interesting thought process.
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"While we are disappointed with Judge Gropper's ruling and will appeal it, we remain committed to continuing to serve our customers professionally and transporting them to their destinations safely and reliably. Our customers can continue to book Northwest with confidence," Northwest Chief Executive Doug Steenland said. That's funny Dougie.....book Scab Air with confidence..... 
I sincerely hope the you recieve another strike you callous bastard, and this one puts you out of a job and out of the airline business for good. :down: :angry:
I sincerely hope the you recieve another strike you callous bastard, and this one puts you out of a job and out of the airline business for good. :down: :angry:
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well of course it is a no surprise to mgmt they are dissapointed. tought sh!t doug. you need to get whats comin to you since you treat your employees (who keep the airline working) like trash. may be you dougie ought to go out to the dumpster and see how it is to dig thru it for clothing etc etc"While we are disappointed with Judge Gropper's ruling and will appeal it, we remain committed to continuing to serve our customers professionally and transporting them to their destinations safely and reliably. Our customers can continue to book Northwest with confidence," Northwest Chief Executive Doug Steenland said. That's funny Dougie.....book Scab Air with confidence.....
I sincerely hope the you recieve another strike you callous bastard, and this one puts you out of a job and out of the airline business for good. :down: :angry:
One reason is that last weeks events pushed our story from front page to a small blurp. Also what support would we have from the public with more important things like last weeks events. It all comes down to timing. Just because the deadline is the 25th doesn't mean it will happen on the 25th, Labor Day is right around the corner!
This is where I think AFA messed up, though. First of all, they made an announcement to the public before even telling the flight attendants, many of whom found out through the media. Secondly, in my opinion, they should have simply told the flight attendants that AFA is monitoring the terror threat and has tentatively put off any CHAOS action until after the 25th. Now they've locked themselves into the delay, and given the company time to appeal today's ruling, even though it seems the trans-Atlantic terror threats have pretty much blown over. Now the company has eight days to plan. Now, mind you, there's not a lot NWA can do because it has to recall furloughees before hiring scabs, but AFA has painted its members into a corner.
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What happened to the Scab FA's NWA hired around this time last year?
