2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[roabilly]

Josh
i can assure you 100% roa will also disappear after his bs is revealed as well. Thats what these guys do, they talk stupid in defense of the utter morons they are friends withbecause any piss clam contract wont affect them, then they sail off the page when all the damage is done.
Labors worst players are those like roa who was lazy and didnt do anything except pack a few liguer kits in clt catering before he finally retired.

Your inside informer has sent you incorrect information (again). I never worked in the "liquer" packing facility..
 
P.S. It's spelled "Liquor"...

 

[roabilly]

social media roa ,give it a try there are plenty of things out there.

Yeah... like Nelson's facebook forum?
 
Here is a direct link to the UA page... maybe everyone needs to go there to see what I mean...
 
UA FORUM
 
Yep... they're hoppin' mad in there...

 

[xUT]

That may be; I'm just going off of what T5 said...
 

 

I don't.

You & I have both been on here long enough to know that the UA board has never exactly been a "high traffic" forum...

Sadly so.
After the BK it has turned into a desert.
Never was a great Ramp/Stores site regardless.
B) xUT

 

[cltrat]

Yeah... like Nelson's facebook forum?
 
Here is a direct link to the UA page... maybe everyone needs to go there to see what I mean...
 
UA FORUM
 
Yep... they're hoppin' mad in there...

there hasn't been ten posts a month in there in years except when Dave and Klemm posted away. but whatever
 
I guess a platform where people post under their real names has no business trying to compete with an anonymous message board.

 

[WeAAsles]

I just scoured the UA forums... not a peep about any of the travesties being discussed about the United agreement in this US/AA forum...  Does anyone else find this strange? There is more United Information in a US thread than in ANY United thread!

Roa the information is available on the District website.

http://m.iam141.org/site/index.html

 

[T5towbar]

kev not sure if its round 1  I thought may be cle was round 1
 
josh the iam is the one working sect 6 first  no jcba until after sect 6   the alliance will continue to represent this way..  iam pmus  and twu pmaa   the iam and the twu will continue to govern the contract and if im not mistaken I believe an IAM is in the lead for the first 5 yrs? or so

CLE was a surprise. It wasn't supposed to be in Round 1, but FAR 117 sped things up.
Its most of the small Cross Utilized stations are on this hit list. Don't forget the 600 or so downgrades throughout the hubs. (BTW: my hub took over 300 downgrades alone before and after contract signing) Most of these people are senior, and they will not take a cut in wages working for a vendor. They will probably retire or try to move somewhere where they can bump in. Like SFO. Or ORD. They are becoming the places where the furloughs are heading, especially SFO. Problem is the company is slow to insource (no one knows where they will end up, especially the CLE people) and once they begin to insource Tier 2 cities, more Tier 3 will be cut. That's when Round 2 will begin.



IMHO, I think that there is a few more so called "Tier 3" cities (I think DTW is in Tier 2, but not sure) are in the block. It will be some time before they come after Tier 2. All of the insourcing is supposed to be in Tier 2. CLE is (was) Tier 2.

 

[T5towbar]

I just read the District's update....... Yeah right. They still tout about the so called "Job security". Who in their right mind would take a major pay cut where as the vendor can do it for 35% less. What a joke. The also claim a victory about getting the DEN UAX work. That's only ATW. Why not ramp? Because SkyWest cost much less, even though they are having performance issues.

What makes this a real travesty? Having the Cross Utilized agents being forced by management to either pick either ATW or DTW knowing they will be vendored out.

When will we hear some good news??????????

 

[Tim Nelson]

tim  im not saying cb or prez are nice fellas etc  but having gone thru what we went thru in one of the many cities that got hammered to death  but the fact is our team so far has actually stood by the demands of improving our contract in attempting to get improvements  but the donkeys have stonewalled all the way  including getting door buster deals with AA unions all the while theyre not trying to get sect 6 talks done  yet the same ole brainless donkeys made it absolutely clear to the nmb they do not intend to get contracts with the iam groups     in my opin   the nmb is stalling just as much in granting us and the 142 a release just as those b@$tards led by dp and ah are in their utter failure to get deals with the iam.  That's one darn good reason why I have absolutely no respect for them     We have the leverage now  
 
T5  I hear ya bro    I wish nothing but the best to all of the affected   but one thing is clear  next time theres a contract make darn sure everyone reads the scope  that's the single most important thing in the contract.   I believe before the amendable date UA will have strictly the hubs only  and if that comes true  then its all the more reason why WE CANNOT ALLOW THAT TYPE DEAL HERE AT USAIRWAYS/AA

Canale had to go so the majority gave these guys a shot. They fooled me and some others only once. Fooled others twice in 2012, and hopefully they wont fool the majority a third time. They all hosed our entire craft at united and are ready to hose over usairways fleet after june if you let them. They have failed to do a few major things which shows AH that he is going to eat them for lunch. They would push a terrible contract right now like they did at united if these morons didnt need votes. Thankfully the membership pushed for change very strongly in february so i think we can b hopeful of finally getting these stiffs out.

These guys are known by their actions of F over united. They will screw over usairways if we let them. Hopefully these idiots get voted out and we can clean up a few things that need to happen and bring back a fair agreement alot quicker.

We have a chance to attain a fair agreement before a single carrier status is reached but it has to happen quickly. D**^king around calling for a strike and pounding chest without covering your bases is not only bizarre but unfair to members. Really stupid s.

Of course their answer is to lie to u and blow smoke up your ass telling you that the twu/association will refrain from filing the application by july 3. That is the biggest line of bull s.

I mean, you either believe their bull s that the twu/association will breach a contract or ive been telling you the truth.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Yeah... like Nelson's facebook forum?
 
Here is a direct link to the UA page... maybe everyone needs to go there to see what I mean...
 
UA FORUM
 
Yep... they're hoppin' mad in there...

sellouts like you hurt our chances at delta. Obviously you have no understanding since you say the united contract has no bearing on usairways negotiations even though those officers who endorsed that pos are now in charge of the current ones at usairways. Although you will also deny that the ua pos wont affect delta, you are sadly mistaken again. That pos ua contract that you and your boys supported (and loved to dog me fighting against it) is really going to set back our efforts at delta.

 

[robbedagain]

Tim  I think march 18 and 19 will tell given that the IAM meets with the NMB   and my understanding is that they have a lot of support going in with them to push to be released together 

 

[700UW]

The only person who at UA is involved with US is Delaney, not anyone else on the UA NC is involved with the US CBA.
 
And I bet even Delaney isnt at every negotiating session.

 

[roabilly]

there hasn't been ten posts a month in there in years except when Dave and Klemm posted away. but whatever
 
I guess a platform where people post under their real names has no business trying to compete with an anonymous message board.

True, my understanding is that Facebook has safeguards in place that makes it almost impossible to create a myriad of characters with different call signs. I’m pretty sure that’s why the page is dead; one can’t have Joshes, Informers, Janitors and who know who else giving the illusion of an army of supporters!

 

[Kev3188]

sellouts like you hurt our chances at delta. Obviously you have no understanding since you say the united contract has no bearing on usairways negotiations even though those officers who endorsed that pos are now in charge of the current ones at usairways. Although you will also deny that the ua pos wont affect delta, you are sadly mistaken again. That pos ua contract that you and your boys supported (and loved to dog me fighting against it) is really going to set back our efforts at delta.

People are already voting this down, but this is absolutely true. The UA T/A did us no favors over here at the Widget...

 

[cltrat]

People are already voting this down, but this is absolutely true. The UA T/A did us no favors over here at the Widget...

you're absolutely right Kev  too bad some are too clueless to see it.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim  I think march 18 and 19 will tell given that the IAM meets with the NMB   and my understanding is that they have a lot of support going in with them to push to be released together

they havent covered their bases if the nmb delays. We are on a timetable and they have to prepare otherwise as well. They havent because there are crucial things they left undone and to cover for it, they lie about the scc application and want you to believe the union will breach the contract in july. Its all bs, it isnt going to happen. In the meantime AH watches the clock and u could get screwed with $0 and joint talks.
After june, if in an agc elect, things will move quicker. The silver lining is that id much prefer working with nh and mm over mf and gs. Nh and mm will fight like hell to push their team but i can respect that.