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700UW said:
So what did AGW or FSU accomplish? Gave work up? You are truly clueless or just a pathological liar, an agreement was never reached and the CBA was abrogated, there were about 900 Utility system wide and over 6,000 mechanics, now who had the majority when it came to vote on the final offer that Judge Mitchell made us vote on? And the TWU at AA outsourced cabin cleaning a long time ago, along with facilities cleaning.
700 we just lost the majority of cabin in the BK. The job only cost a lousy 20mil per year and our negotiators even offered more cost savings to keep it but the company wouldn't budge. Those are the things that little Timmy doesn't want to talk about in the 1113 BANKRUPTCY process. He'd rather pretend that he has an iron shield and can protect everyone from that bazooka. What a clown.
 
700UW said:
So what did AGW or FSU accomplish?
 
Gave work up?
 
You are truly clueless or just a pathological liar, an agreement was never reached and the CBA was abrogated, there were about 900 Utility system wide and over 6,000 mechanics, now who had the majority when it came to vote on the final offer that Judge Mitchell made us vote on?
 
And the TWU at AA outsourced cabin cleaning a long time ago, along with facilities cleaning.
You are the one spreading lies and misinformation. Cabin cleaning wasn't outsourced until recently, hubs and certain stations had cabin cleaning through 2012. In addition to the five hubs I know BOS, LGA, SFO, STL, possibly others had TWU cleaners. Don't let the facts get in your way.

Josh
 
WeAAsles said:
700 we just lost the majority of cabin in the BK. The job only cost a lousy 20mil per year and our negotiators even offered more cost savings to keep it but the company wouldn't budge. Those are the things that little Timmy doesn't want to talk about in the 1113 BANKRUPTCY process. He'd rather pretend that he has an iron shield and can protect everyone from that bazooka. What a clown.
It’s real simple... to make Tim’s lifelong argument that the Union sucks; he can’t mention 1113C or the RLA when identifying his faux conspiracy theories that attempt to paint the Union in a questionable light...
 
josh for the us side fsa has been doing the trash n lavs and water for quite sometime now
 
robbedagain said:
josh for the us side fsa has been doing the trash n lavs and water for quite sometime now
Thanks I was talking pmAA TWU.

Are SFO and STL mainline fleet service stations?

700 was posting lies and misinformation about AA and the TWU, I had to refute his lies.

Josh
 
AA use to have their own cabin cleaners, it was a separate classification, then if I remember correctly the work was given to the ramp and no longer had the cabin cleaner classification, am I correct AA?
 
I was working in LGA when that took place and that was a long time ago.
 
700UW said:
AA use to have their own cabin cleaners, it was a separate classification, then if I remember correctly the work was given to the ramp and no longer had the cabin cleaner classification, am I correct AA?
 
I was working in LGA when that took place and that was a long time ago.
BOS and MIA had mainline TWU cabin cleaners until 2012, dont let the facts get in your way.

Josh
 
for us side  sfo is mainline  not sure about stl    mia fll san lax sea fll pbi are all mainline i believe
 
Has anyone else noticed that since we figured out who Josh is, he doesn't even pretend to be a banker trying to learn about our classification, Now, he knows more about our classification than we do!
 
robbedagain said:
for us side  sfo is mainline  not sure about stl    mia fll san lax sea fll pbi are all mainline i believe
Robbed AA is mainline at STL and LAX

FLL, SAN, SEA and PBI are all contract

Josh
 
700UW said:
AA use to have their own cabin cleaners, it was a separate classification, then if I remember correctly the work was given to the ramp and no longer had the cabin cleaner classification, am I correct AA? I was working in LGA when that took place and that was a long time ago.
You are correct. We lost overnight ultra clean Title 2 in the concessions of 03. That was a different title group. So no you are not lying like someone else we know. The rest though was lost in the BANKRUPTCY. That word that Tim/Josh REFUSES to spell.

C'mon Tim/Josh you can do it. Ready BANKRUPTCY or I'll make it even simpler for you. Try this one, 1113. If you do it I'll get you a cookie.
 
WeAAsles said:
You are correct. We lost overnight ultra clean Title 2 in the concessions of 03. That was a different title group. So no you are not lying like someone else we know. The rest though was lost in the BANKRUPTCY. That word that Tim/Josh REFUSES to spell.

C'mon Tim/Josh you can do it. Ready BANKRUPTCY or I'll make it even simpler for you. Try this one, 1113. If you do it I'll get you a cookie.
Funny then explain why until late 2012 AA had TWU cleaners at BOS, MIA and other stations I frequent?

Josh
 
roabilly said:
It’s real simple... to make Tim’s lifelong argument that the Union sucks; he can’t mention 1113C or the RLA when identifying his faux conspiracy theories that attempt to paint the Union in a questionable light...
Amazing how so many who post on this page arent even active iam fleet service members. You are not even a member and are clueless. Fwiw most (prolly 95%) of all members in iam141 do not believe they are getting their dues worth. Now you can continue to blame the members, or myself, or the republicans or even your flying spaghetti monster, but you cant blame the RLA. The RLA has produced minimal strikes and one of the highest wage/benefits out of any industry.

Its an inconvenient truth for you.

But we have hope to get all these corporate whores out of our union. They dont realize they are core whores but the dumb ass contracts they endorse cant deny them.
 
737823 said:
Funny then explain why until late 2012 AA had TWU cleaners at BOS, MIA and other stations I frequent?Josh
Tim what part of OVERNIGHT ultra cleaning did you not understand. Title 2 which performed that job was also paid less than Fleet Title 3.

Some stations may have still performed that work in house if they were too small to contract it out? But I am a hub guy so not so sure. And cabin work to this day is still in our SCOPE if the company needs us to perform it.
 
Tim Nelson said:
Amazing how so many who post on this page arent even active iam fleet service members. You are not even a member and are clueless. Fwiw most (prolly 95%) of all members in iam141 do not believe they are getting their dues worth.

 
 
Tim
 
  It can't even be close to 70% let alone 95%. What you should do is compare % to those that actually vote. The rest know they have a union but don't know the first thing about how to use it to their advantage. 
 
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