2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[700UW]

Ask yourself, why does AH want single carrier? The synergies from single carrier are suppost to be over a billion dollars a year. Im sure AH would have a good corporate attorney asking for severe damages to intentionally violating a contract. Will the twu risk its very existence for 5,000 usairways rampers? HELL NO.
You and I know this but you intentionally lie and mislead members into thinking that the Twu is going to violate its contract and you continually hype up how the nmb is going to release our peeps every two months, when you know full well that most realize the nmb isnt even close to issuing an impasse.

You could be a rock star if you made a movie "700 in Wonderland".

Cmon maaaaaannnn.

You still dont grasp it.
 
Because there is an SCS filed doesnt mean their will be synergies.
 
Hasnt actual history at US shown you this.
 
The pilots have had an SCS since 2006 yet there is no synergies and there is no JCBA and they are still working under their respective CBAs since the merger.
 
The flight attendants worked under an SCS and it took them EIGHT years to get a JCBA.

Where are those synergies?
 
I showed you examples of UA and CO were there was an SCS and no JCBA and separate CBA negotiated for PMUA and PMCO for the M&R and the FAs.

No synergies there either.
 
So even if an SCS is filed doesnt guarantee that the TWU and IAM will end Section 6 Negotiations and achieve an JCBA.
 
No synergies there either.
 
And if the TWU files the SCS they will violate the agreement they signed with the IAM.
 
And even if they file the SCS, both the IAM and the TWU will file for the alliance and bring it to a vote.
 
Still no synergies there.
 
So show us your knowledge and show the board what damages it will cause the new AA and what "pain" it will cause the TWU.
 
I have asked you several times all ready and you keep avoiding the reality of the situation.
 
Its 5,000 ramp and over 4,000 M&R and MTS.

 

[700UW]

Also why are our iam leaders walking out of talks?

No where at 141 or 142 or the GL states they walked out of talks.
 
The NMB called both parties to DC and the meetings were scheduled for the 18th and 19th, today is the 20th.
 
And last meeting AH stated no more negotiating that US was done.

 

[737823]

So what happens next? The company is unwilling to negotiate but they won't release?

Josh

 

[Tim Nelson]

You still dont grasp it.
 
Because there is an SCS filed doesnt mean their will be synergies.
 
Hasnt actual history at US shown you this.
 
The pilots have had an SCS since 2006 yet there is no synergies and there is no JCBA and they are still working under their respective CBAs since the merger.
 
The flight attendants worked under an SCS and it took them EIGHT years to get a JCBA.

Where are those synergies?
 
I showed you examples of UA and CO were there was an SCS and no JCBA and separate CBA negotiated for PMUA and PMCO for the M&R and the FAs.

No synergies there either.
 
So even if an SCS is filed doesnt guarantee that the TWU and IAM will end Section 6 Negotiations and achieve an JCBA.
 
No synergies there either.
 
And if the TWU files the SCS they will violate the agreement they signed with the IAM.
 
And even if they file the SCS, both the IAM and the TWU will file for the alliance and bring it to a vote.
 
Still no synergies there.
 
So show us your knowledge and show the board what damages it will cause the new AA and what "pain" it will cause the TWU.
 
I have asked you several times all ready and you keep avoiding the reality of the situation.
 
Its 5,000 ramp and over 4,000 M&R and MTS.

ok
AH isnt going to seek damages. Im sure he will just submit. He could also violate the agreement himself and withhold 4.3% that came with it. He wont though and the twu wont jeopardize its future.

 

[700UW]

Once again Tim.
 
What damages will not filing the SCS cause?
 
You keep avoiding it.
 
And the 4.3% raise replaced the profit sharing, go ask Bob Owens.

 

[737823]

700 how is LL 1725?

Josh

 

[robbedagain]

there is no proof that the nc walked out of the talks   
 
josh  everything is up to the NMB at this point    The donkeys and the IAM can negogiate on the sidelines  but they are not doing so simply bec those flippin arse donkeys led by AH DP etc REFUSE to negogiate with the IAM   thats how lazy those dirty b@$tards are   The IAM has been pushing the NMB to release both groups together   its all up to the NMB   NOT THE IAM OR THE COMPANY

 

[Tim Nelson]

Once again Tim.
 
What damages will not filing the SCS cause?
 
You keep avoiding it.
 
And the 4.3% raise replaced the profit sharing, go ask Bob Owens.

i dont have to ask anyone. The mou was for 4.3% in return for profit sharing and single carrier. It is the same mou so if twu renegs then whats stopping AH from playing along as well?

Your whole scenerio is no better than "Bedtime Stories". Dis roa give you some of that shine he has? Bust my balls all you want but roa diming out a brother is as anti union as one gets.

 

[roabilly]

not sure how much of the shine he had yesterday but he dimed me out yesterday by rat finking.

Yeahhh... Sure Nelson...  whatever your paranoid little brain wants to think. If I ratted you out... you wouldn't be on here now would you?!
Secondly, I can't tell the Company anything about you... that they don't already know!

 

[wikileaks]

I can confirm that No member was allowed in with the NMB and the company only The Two TOP IAM officials, IMO AH is a complete jackass, he came from the ramp many moon's ago and the powder in his nose is probably still there. All the company offered was 1%, time to work a couple of weekends and save the money for a strike

 

[WeAAsles]

Constantly bashing your Union does not make you a brother even if dues are collected. If anyone really feels that that's all it takes then they have no concept of what it is to be part of a Union.

 

[WeAAsles]

Yeahhh... Sure Nelson...  whatever your paranoid little brain wants to think. If I ratted you out... you wouldn't be on here now would you?!Secondly, I can't tell the Company anything about you... that they don't already know!

The guy is about as pro company as it gets. No reason to hide behind a moniker if you never bash the real hand that feeds you.

 

[roabilly]

The guy is about as pro company as it gets. No reason to hide behind a moniker if you never bash the real hand that feeds you.

He claims I gave my password away... maybe it was somebody that has it...

 

[Tim Nelson]

Yeahhh... Sure Nelson...  whatever your paranoid little brain wants to think. If I ratted you out... you wouldn't be on here now would you?!
Secondly, I can't tell the Company anything about you... that they don't already know!

Diming out a brother is a joke. i knew it would be a matter of time before mf starting using you to dime me out.
You should keep to your own business and stop diming out when someone works.

 

[roabilly]

Diming out a brother is a joke. i knew it would be a matter of time before mf starting using you to dime me out.
You should keep to your own business and stop diming out when someone works.

As I said... whatever your paranoid little brain wishes to believe...
Your perception is YOUR reality... not mine!