2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[737823]

Prove it's not fake.

How was Tim responsible for the blood bath of 1992?

Josh

 

[700UW]

"IAM members will not be duped into stand in with AMFA"

-IAM GVP Robert Roach Jr.

Josh

Figures you leave out where OV Delle Femmine sent NW a letter demanding they take more money in concessions from the IAM so AMFA would have to give less.
 
Liar and fraud, that is what you are.

 

[700UW]

Prove it's not fake.

How was Tim responsible for the blood bath of 1992?

Josh

Prove it isnt a real
 
The letters are real, ask Tim, ask the TWU.
 
You are a liar and fake.

 

[700UW]

Certainly I don't believe in assault.  PHL has a right to see Pat's statements. He is asking for their vote so it is fair game. 

You are condoning and defending violence.
 
And you will say and do anything for a vote.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I know all of it. It's clearly visible and searchable on the net. What I would like to know right now is if he condones assaulting members of other unions. If he agrees with the assault that took place that the criminal justice system clearly did not. Is this the kind of union member Tim is. An old fashioned knuckle dragger thug?

We had some guys here in MIA during the raid before the association was formed who thought about some old fashioned payback. When they told me what they were even thinking about I reamed them a new ####.

Again Union members should NEVER condone harm on other Union members. You let your organizations accomplishments speak for their worth as to whether or not they're the better choice for representation.

You don't have all the information.  One source for you may be the FOIA.  It takes about 90 days, if you are lucky. 

 

[WeAAsles]

Certainly I don't believe in assault.  PHL has a right to see Pat's statements. He is asking for their vote so it is fair game. 

What I'm guessing that you are trying to say is that this man may have done the right, just and honorable thing in condemning an action that NEVER should have happened in the first place. Is that what you're alluding that this man may have done Tim?

"Possibly" had the intestinal fortitude (The Balls) to stand up and be damned what other people may think about it? 

If in any way this is true I could and would only call the man one thing "A LEADER"

 

[Tim Nelson]

Prove it's not fake.

How was Tim responsible for the blood bath of 1992?

Josh

Josh, the bloodbath of 1992 affected me. There is a reason why I am member of Local 1487 and not Local 1725.
Myself and a few good men pushed to keep the Teamsters on the property while I was in CLT, while Charlie Brown, MF [not in CLT at the time but Rockit knows he refused], and Roabilly felt comfortable with no union, and 700 was subverting things by suggesting to folks that it wouldn't be all that bad if the Teamsters were voted out because the IAM could be voted in the next year.  So, although there was a bloodbath, it happened because the Teamsters got voted out, and 700's insistence that going non union would provide the opportunity for the IAM caused great pain on all of us.

 

[WeAAsles]

You don't have all the information.  One source for you may be the FOIA.  It takes about 90 days, if you are lucky. 

Alright well stop with this BS right now then. SAY IT. Say what you are dancing around accusing this man of doing? You want to use some type of crappy underhanded blackmail against him that you're going to bring to light. Let's go. Bring it to light right here, right now and have a little dignity for once Tim and give him the opportunity to give his version. If you have the balls. Or else shut the F up and run an election on your personal merit.

 

[Tim Nelson]

What I'm guessing that you are trying to say is that this man may have done the right, just and honorable thing in condemning an action that NEVER should have happened in the first place. Is that what you're alluding that this man may have done Tim?

"Possibly" had the intestinal fortitude (The Balls) to stand up and be damned what other people may think about it? 

If in any way this is true I could and would only call the man one thing "A LEADER"

No. I'm saying he grandstood.  I'm saying he fanned it for all it was worth and did so for personal gain.  The statements speak for themselves and his intent was to use this unfortunate incident to gain an extension of time for the TWU raid on our IAM.  I'm suggesting that what he said was inherently wrong because he exploited a very unfortunate situation for his own gain.  That sir, is  wrong.

 

[mike33]

That letter is fake.

Why do you keep saying he was responsible for the "blood bath" of 1992?

Tim was there, he was impacted by it, no?

You just look for any opportunity to attack Tim and then claim to be an uninvolved and separated USAIR employee.

Josh

Tim Quiet...Let Tim speak for himself !!!!!

 

[P. REZ]

These guys just been bull shitting you robbed. Just like they did at United.  They have nothing to show over 6 years. NOTHING.   I've asked Roabilly to share with us just one thing these guys have accomplished other than just being nice fellas. 
As far as the negotiations go, hopefully, the damage isn't extensive. 
 
When I say Prez is done, I mean as a District officer this time. That's my opinion Robbed but then again that's why they have elections. Who knows I suppose but if he wins, I still will be relentless on him and the NC if they continue to move downwards. As far as Prez, the person, I have no problem with him. Nice fella, just not cut out to go against management.  Tooooooooooo Close to management for sure!

Tim,
 
Too close to management? I will give you some initials of everyone I can think of who have been in meetings with me and management. I believe not one will say I'm too close to management. CL, AH-B, DE, JK, SC, RR, EC and RK. Hell, come to PHX and talk to any manager and see what their opinion is of me. I would be shocked if you could find one manager here that would claim I am a swell guy to deal with. Ask a manager who left here for PHL, RJ, what he thinks of me. He will probably say I'm a d**k.  
 
P. Rez

 

[WeAAsles]

No. I'm saying he grandstood.  I'm saying he fanned it for all it was worth and did so for personal gain.  The statements speak for themselves and his intent was to use this unfortunate incident to gain an extension of time for the TWU raid on our IAM.  I'm suggesting that what he said was inherently wrong because he exploited a very unfortunate situation for his own gain.  That sir, is  wrong.

THIS is why you lose elections Tim. All you are is one big walking attack ad. For a minute. I mean one small sliver of a moment in this thread you were FINALLY touting up your accomplishments and why maybe your members should consider you.

But it never lasts with you and because of who you are and who you always will be you do not deserve to be in an elected position. As smart as you are you lack two clear things needed to be a real leader. Honor and Integrity.

 

[P. REZ]

No. I'm saying he grandstood.  I'm saying he fanned it for all it was worth and did so for personal gain.  The statements speak for themselves and his intent was to use this unfortunate incident to gain an extension of time for the TWU raid on our IAM.  I'm suggesting that what he said was inherently wrong because he exploited a very unfortunate situation for his own gain.  That sir, is  wrong.

Tim,
 
Care to tell everyone who the first US employee was to call our TWU offices to speak with me about trying to get TWU the support it needed to get an election after the merger with AW was announced? 
 
P. Rez

 

[mike33]

Tim,
 
Care to tell everyone who the first US employee was to call our TWU offices to speak with me about trying to get TWU the support it needed to get an election after the merger with AW was announced? 
 
P. Rez

Prob TN

 

[700UW]

That would be Tim Nelson.