2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[charlie Brown]

arlie Brown" post="1061170" timestamp="1391822117"]Roa
I think that's pretty funny, someone that wants to inform the members, wants to put people on ignore so he doesn't have to respond. Something doesn't make since with that to me. Could it be that he doesn't want to respond to particular questions. Since he hasn't answered any of mine for the members to see who is truly deceiving them.

i dont have to engage or respond to anyone who cant post with his real name as i do. That should tell yourself something Charlie Brown. Until you step up and have the stones to post with your real name, it is unfair for you to criticize me for ignoring roabilly and 700.
Unlike you, i maintain accountability and integrity by posting under my own name so that anything i have said on this forum can be credited to me, good or bad.
Thay said, i have and will engage everyone with the exception of roa and 700.
The reason why is because neither of them are active members of our union.
Enjoy your weekend cb[/quote]
Tim
I'm glad everything can be credited back to you, because sooner or later people are to see through all your smoke blowing. And they will start wanting answers, not spinning away from their questions. You want to represent the US airways members as AGC, but yet you think you can play them like puppets with talk and spin. You are already deliberately deceiving them and your not even in the position yet. You are throwing us all under the bus, bringing even more UA people on board, just to get you more votes from the UA & CO people. But you won't tell anybody this. As far as me being CB on here. I would say that 90% of the people that read this already know who I am. I've even gave the clt grievance office number out several times. It's not hard to figure out which one of us is CB in the grievance office. And lastly, I think you've been posting my name in the last several post, and I haven't said I mind. So I really don't know what your problem is with CB. Maybe you didn't like him as a child.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I'll take that as a compliment, coming from you. And the US airways members should think it's disappointing why you won't address throwing us under the bus in the next election. But as long as Tim is in there, then all will be ok. Doesn't matter how many positions Tim wants to take away from US airways fleet. We will have Tim!!!

i had nothing to do with you running against a united airline member.
more importantly, i told you that you guys wouldnt get away with endorsing that united agreement but you just didnt listen to me.
i told you that your ticket would get an arse beating due to betraying the members, and the domination this week shouldnt be surprising for you.
sheesh

 

[mike33]

Tim,
 
I can say that I met the fleet president of the local out of dfw who has 3600 members and he and I had a good talk. I believe the association will be a good thing. It will prevent both Unions fighting each other only for this Company to take advantage of our instability. I only wish the same for our district. All of this name calling and infighting is killing our solidarity. If you have a problem with something I am doing tell me. I have already admitted that I have and will make mistakes. This fighting is not getting us any closer to anything other than more bs from the Company.
 
P. Rez    

 instability? Now I'm worried. What the hell does that mean? We are ready to do whatever it takes for this company to have a little respect for this part of the employee group that brought them through 2 BK's. May be you see it as unstable, but i see it as very stable. When we talk and disagree on issues that concern the ones who still work here, that is good! 
The company probably thinks that since we are in an election that we are any less committed to our cause.
They couldn't be more mistaken.

 

[roabilly]

I would bet he is being used by NVA to spread hate and discontent and divide the membership.

I'm beginning to think the same thing... who is feeding him false information? AH?

 

[roabilly]

Roa
I think that's pretty funny, someone that wants to inform the members, wants to put people on ignore so he doesn't have to respond. Something doesn't make since with that to me. Could it be that he doesn't want to respond to particular questions. Since he hasn't answered any of mine for the members to see who is truly deceiving them.

Whats cool about me being on ignore..., i can see and refute his posts,.. but he can't see them to respond back!

 

[roabilly]

arlie Brown" post="1061170" timestamp="1391822117"]Roa
I think that's pretty funny, someone that wants to inform the members, wants to put people on ignore so he doesn't have to respond. Something doesn't make since with that to me. Could it be that he doesn't want to respond to particular questions. Since he hasn't answered any of mine for the members to see who is truly deceiving them.

i dont have to engage or respond to anyone who cant post with his real name as i do. That should tell yourself something Charlie Brown. Until you step up and have the stones to post with your real name, it is unfair for you to criticize me for ignoring roabilly and 700.
Unlike you, i maintain accountability and integrity by posting under my own name so that anything i have said on this forum can be credited to me, good or bad.

Thay said, i have and will engage everyone with the exception of roa and 700.
The reason why is because neither of them are active members of our union.

Enjoy your weekend cb

[/QUOTE]But... he will respond, and share buddy-buddy cross talk with Josh, who is a Financial Officer for a non-airline corporation... hardly a an active Union Member!

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim,
 
I can say that I met the fleet president of the local out of dfw who has 3600 members and he and I had a good talk. I believe the association will be a good thing. It will prevent both Unions fighting each other only for this Company to take advantage of our instability. I only wish the same for our district. All of this name calling and infighting is killing our solidarity. If you have a problem with something I am doing tell me. I have already admitted that I have and will make mistakes. This fighting is not getting us any closer to anything other than more bs from the Company.
 
P. Rez

Nobody is fighting. Its called democracy and although it looks ugly at times, it is something we covet as iam members. I like you as a person. However what you did was wrong when you endorsed the united contract. The members told us that they want change because the union is at the crossroads and its hardto see where the union starts and management ends.
They voiced that this week. Im hopeful that we can rebuild this union, sign good contracts again, and win delta ramp organizing. We have one chance to do this and it seems thr members are making the mosy of it.

 

[Tim Nelson]

i had nothing to do with you running against a united airline member.
more importantly, i told you that you guys wouldnt get away with endorsing that united agreement but you just didnt listen to me.
i told you that your ticket would get an arse beating due to betraying the members, and the domination this week shouldnt be surprising for you.
sheesh

 

[charlie Brown]

i had nothing to do with you running against a united airline member.
more importantly, i told you that you guys wouldnt get away with endorsing that united agreement but you just didnt listen to me.
i told you that your ticket would get an arse beating due to betraying the members,
i told you that your ticket would get an arse beating due to betraying the members, and the domination this week shouldnt be surprising for you.
Unfortunately, you just dont listen but if you were really concerned about usairways spots, and not just your own, you would support the two usairways two year agcs instead of the two united guys who their own members chose not to endorse.
sheesh

Tim
You always get excited about the nominations. You did last time too. Most of us get excited about election time, not nominations. And it doesn't have a thing to do about running for my position. I'm not in it for the position. It has everything to do with your ticket replacing two US airways board spots, and giving them to UA people, and you are a us airways fleet and you are supporting that. Again spin spin to take the focus away from you doing that. Just tell all US fleet now, that you support taking two of our position away and giving them to UA. Even though we are already drastically outnumbered. Go ahead. I'll wait. Say it!

 

[mike33]

 instability? Now I'm worried. What the hell does that mean? We are ready to do whatever it takes for this company to have a little respect for this part of the employee group that brought them through 2 BK's. May be you see it as unstable, but i see it as very stable. When we talk and disagree on issues that concern the ones who still work here, that is good! 
The company probably thinks that since we are in an election that we are any less committed to our cause.
They couldn't be more mistaken.

As far as I'm concerned, the only thing that worries me about our division is the legalities if them ( the TWU) having to file SCS within the 6 months period. Hopefully they consulted lawyers re such. 

 

[Tim Nelson]

i dont have to engage or respond to anyone who cant post with his real name as i do. That should tell yourself something Charlie Brown. Until you step up and have the stones to post with your real name, it is unfair for you to criticize me for ignoring roabilly and 700.
Unlike you, i maintain accountability and integrity by posting under my own name so that anything i have said on this forum can be credited to me, good or bad.
Thay said, i have and will engage everyone with the exception of roa and 700.
The reason why is because neither of them are active members of our union.
Enjoy your weekend cb

Tim
I'm glad everything can be credited back to you, because sooner or later people are to see through all your smoke blowing. And they will start wanting answers, not spinning away from their questions. You want to represent the US airways members as AGC, but yet you think you can play them like puppets with talk and spin. You are already deliberately deceiving them and your not even in the position yet. You are throwing us all under the bus, bringing even more UA people on board, just to get you more votes from the UA & CO people. But you won't tell anybody this. As far as me being CB on here. I would say that 90% of the people that read this already know who I am. I've even gave the clt grievance office number out several times. It's not hard to figure out which one of us is CB in the grievance office. And lastly, I think you've been posting my name in the last several post, and I haven't said I mind. So I really don't know what your problem is with CB. Maybe you didn't like him as a child.[/quote]
Thats ridiculous.

 

[roabilly]

Tim
You always get excited about the nominations. You did last time too. Most of us get excited about election time, not nominations. And it doesn't have a thing about running for my position. I'm not in it for the position. It has everything to do with your ticket replacing two US airways board spots, and giving them to UA people, and you are a us airways fleet and you are supporting that. Again spin spin to take the focus away from you doing that. Just tell all US fleet now, that you support taking two of our position away and giving them to UA. Even though we are already drastically outnumbered. Go ahead. I'll wait. Say it!

He won't admit it... it's ALL about him, and what he can do...

 

[P. REZ]

 instability? Now I'm worried. What the hell does that mean? We are ready to do whatever it takes for this company to have a little respect for this part of the employee group that brought them through 2 BK's. May be you see it as unstable, but i see it as very stable. When we talk and disagree on issues that concern the ones who still work here, that is good! 
The company probably thinks that since we are in an election that we are any less committed to our cause.
They couldn't be more mistaken.

Mike33,
 
I was talking about the instability I thought we might have if the IAM and TWU fought for representation.
 
P. Rez

 

[mike33]

I mis-interpreted that...... sorry. I went back and read it!

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim
You always get excited about the nominations. You did last time too. Most of us get excitedtime, not nominations. And it doesn't have a thing about running for my position. I'm not in it for the position. It has everything to do with your ticket replacing two US airways board spots, and giving them to UA people, and you are a us airways fleet and you are supporting that. Again spin spin to take the focus away from you doing that. Just tell all US fleet now, that you support taking two of our position away and giving them to UA. Even though we are already drastically outnumbered. Go ahead. I'll wait. Say it!

You are absolutely right about the elections But this is the first timethat the incumbants have been shut out of their hubs. The steamroll has been even stronger than 2008. Time will tell but that united contract you guys hosed them with is the driving force.
That said, usairways candidates are always the low hanging fruit regardless of slate. So you could really put the usairways membership at risk if all usairways candidates on your ticket get crushed but you succeed in knocking off usairways candidates from the winning ticket. Thereby leaving usairways with 0 spots. It is what it is due to bylaws but hopefully stubbornness doesnt prevail if yhere is a clear winning ticket.