2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[700UW]

Do you realize if you vote no to strike and vote no on the last and final offer, it becomes your new CBA?

 

[freedom]

Do you realize if you vote no to strike and vote no on the last and final offer, it becomes your new CBA?

No this is news to me .I would have thought that decling to vote would simply have continued the status quo.

 

[ChockJockey]

No this is news to me .I would have thought that decling to vote would simply have continued the status quo.

 
I didn't know that either...just goes to what Tim and others have been saying about education.  Knowledge is power.

 

[Jester]

CJ,
 
Maybe Freedom would change his vote if you allow him to move in with you during the strike?  But seriously, while I respect Freedom's "No" vote (even if I disagree), I wonder if he and others would cross the line and report for work?  I am sure there is some correlation between the closeness of a "Yes" vote and those willing to cross the line.
 
Also, you mentioned the lack of training on the AA equipment, especially the MD-80, but a fair number of PHX agents have worked the Continental and Allegiant Mad Dogs, so I don't see that as a real issue.  Computer and software issues are another matter to be sure.  Did I hear correctly that the lead with the lowest seniority has the responsibility of the A330 flights as no one else wanted the hassle, so it defaulted to that poor soul? What could go wrong when the least experienced lead is responsible for an aircraft with completely different means to load, push, and operate?

 

[737823]

I thought they were having a vendor for the A330, hence the lengthy discussion on this forum. Pretty pathetic USAIR lacks the facility and personnel in their hometown hub airport to handle their flagship aircraft.

Josh

 

[cltrat]

that's not the way it is in CLT with regards to the 330 Jester.
personally I like working it

 

[cltrat]

Josh now cmon you've been told time and time again that is not the case

 

[ograc]

Management will just load a training test with a completion date…. BAM your trained

They already have. BAM trained! Now go work the flight!

 

[737823]

Josh now cmon you've been told time and time again that is not the case

Because 700 said otherwise? Seriously?

Josh

 

[Jester]

True training comes through repetition and direct experience.  These I-path learning courses are pretty much a joke as most of the items that are not handled on a regular basis are forgotten next day.  So Management claims one has been "trained" though after a 3 minute computer class, and will hold the agent responsible when something goes wrong.

 

[700UW]

First of all PHX isn't the hometown hub, and America West never flew the A330, that would me PMUS.

Dont let the facts get in your way, and the equipment is in PHX or on its way and rampers are being trained.

And US has widebody capable gates in PHX.

 

[cltrat]

no because of what I know to be true

 

[737823]

First of all PHX isn't the hometown hub, and America West never flew the A330, that would me PMUS.

Dont let the facts get in your way, and the equipment is in PHX or on its way and rampers are being trained.

And US has widebody capable gates in PHX.

What about BOS? Too bad the 332 isn't to MIA.

Josh

 

[freedom]

CJ,
 
Maybe Freedom would change his vote if you allow him to move in with you during the strike?  But seriously, while I respect Freedom's "No" vote (even if I disagree), I wonder if he and others would cross the line and report for work?  I am sure there is some correlation between the closeness of a "Yes" vote and those willing to cross the line.
 
Also, you mentioned the lack of training on the AA equipment, especially the MD-80, but a fair number of PHX agents have worked the Continental and Allegiant Mad Dogs, so I don't see that as a real issue.  Computer and software issues are another matter to be sure.  Did I hear correctly that the lead with the lowest seniority has the responsibility of the A330 flights as no one else wanted the hassle, so it defaulted to that poor soul? What could go wrong when the least experienced lead is responsible for an aircraft with completely different means to load, push, and operate?

While I would vote no on a strike vote at this time thats not the same as saying I would cross the line.

I would not cross the line ,if I did so my dead family members would roll over in their graves and id have to spend the rest of my life living knowing that I was an unprincipled coward ...

 

[700UW]

Same for BOS, how many times do you have to be told the same thing over and over?

Equipment and training will happen before, and US use to fly the 768 to BOS, and the A333 use to fly to MIA when US first got them, as Airbus Training Center is in MIA.