2014 Pilot Discussion

[dca319]

 
Good point. I've no reason to insult actual cats, do respect that they've sometimes demonstrated great courage, even thought of a sort, and serve a useful purpose in this world, so that was an inappropriate comparison on my part. 😉

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

 

[Phoenix]

I think the APA and company made it clear they'll be giving a seat to the west.

Arbitration can be either voluntary or mandatory.  Mandatory arbitration can only come from a statute.   Voluntary arbitration can only come from a contract that is voluntarily entered into.  
 
Not very likely to get an arbitration panel to complicitly entitle additional participants without statutory warrant or a voluntary contract.  

 

[EastUS1]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

 
Hmm...must've totally lost ya' at the "even thought of a sort" part. Perhaps you've exhausted your supply of Ritalin? 😉

 

[Phoenix]

Horner, ferguson Simmons and Koontz started the entire Leonidas Ponzi scheme based on total misunderstanding of labor law. Marty profited from their ignorance.
Bill Wilder stepped on the Leonidas roach, and is already lighting the APA up.

 
 
Who's misunderstanding...  Their own, or their benefactors?  

 

[dca319]

Arbitration can be either voluntary or mandatory.  Mandatory arbitration can only come from a statute.   Voluntary arbitration can only come from a contract that is voluntarily entered into.  
 
Not very likely to get an arbitration panel to complicitly entitle additional participants without statutory warrant or a voluntary contract.  

Keep your head buried as deep as you'd like PHX, but events up to now point strongly toward a west seat and no USAPA integration. APA spelled it out quite clearly.

You in for AOX? You'd be Persian #4.

 

[dca319]

 
Hmm...must've totally lost ya' at the "even thought of a sort" part. Perhaps you've exhausted your supply of Ritalin? 😉

You setting up the LLC for AOX or am I?

 

[EastUS1]

Not very likely to get an arbitration panel to complicitly entitle additional participants without statutory warrant or a voluntary contract.  

 
Agreed.

 

[EastUS1]

 
"In addition, the former America West pilots are not entitled to participate in the upcoming statutory procedure required for the integration of the US Airways and American Airline pilots." "Under that statute, the West Pilots are not entitled to participate."
 
P.P.P.S.  If anyone wants to entitle the West Pilots to participate, all arbitration parties will have to agree to stipulate an exception to the statute. <<------------  This is your clue. 😉

 
Pretty much.

 

[dca319]

Arbitration can be either voluntary or mandatory.  Mandatory arbitration can only come from a statute.   Voluntary arbitration can only come from a contract that is voluntarily entered into.  
 
Not very likely to get an arbitration panel to complicitly entitle additional participants without statutory warrant or a voluntary contract.  

Good thing the company's lawyers and APA missed that.

It means we've won fellow Persians! AOX is paying off already.

 

[EastUS1]

You setting up the LLC for AOX or am I?

 
Were "you'se" actually an east pilot, instead of a pathological liar, well, you would know no luck would be had with getting east people to ever pretend themselves "soldiers" in some cute little Fantasyland "army". Most all are above the developmental stages generally associated with at most, the mid-teens, and do have respect for military service as well, a great many having served themselves, and no small number of the younger still doing so, unlike the west's self-styled "spartans" in your ever-so-pwecious widdle "army" of infantile fools.
 
Feel free to start whatever LLC's you care to in PHX. Heck!.."You'se" could even self-style, as does fergie, as the "supreme commander" of the supposed "army". Aww...How cute is that? Seriously? Words just fail me there. 😉

 

[dca319]

I guess what you're saying is I'm doing it.

 

[traderjake]

P.P.P.S.  If anyone wants to entitle the West Pilots to participate, all arbitration parties will have to agree to stipulate an exception to the statute. <<------------  This is your clue. 😉

 
Or APA can put West pilots on their MC.
 
I love the smell of desperation in the morning.

 

[nic4us]

Arbitration can be either voluntary or mandatory.  Mandatory arbitration can only come from a statute.   Voluntary arbitration can only come from a contract that is voluntarily entered into.  
 
Not very likely to get an arbitration panel to complicitly entitle additional participants without statutory warrant or a voluntary contract.  

good morning east SCABs.

Luckily for all LCC pilots there is both statutory warrant under McCaskill/Bond, AND voluntary contract in the form of the MOU.

further, upon a SCS determination from the NMB, uscaba is no longer a legal authority to enter into and/or enforce voluntary contracts. Bye bye SCAB union!

Oh, and this is for Pi......read 10 h again. Then ask yourself, who agreed to 10 h, and who is US Airways once a single carrier status is determined? also, ask yourself, what difference does it make that there was no change in the lists at the former airline once we are all incorporated into the single list for all AAL pilots. and, bet your bottom dollar that incorporation will not deviate from the Nic one seniority number amongst the former LCC pilots.

 

[GorgeousGeorge]

Or APA can put West pilots on their MC.
 
I love the smell of desperation in the morning.

Hate to tell you but he predicted the law and the outcome fairly well on the appeal to the Ninth and the two decisions by Silver in her court. He has a pretty good track record so I doubt he is desperate.

 

[dca319]

good morning east SCABs.

Luckily for all LCC pilots there is both statutory warrant under McCaskill/Bond, AND voluntary contract in the form of the MOU.

further, upon a SCS determination from the NMB, uscaba is no longer a legal authority to enter into and/or enforce voluntary contracts. Bye bye SCAB union!

Oh, and this is for Pi......read 10 h again. Then ask yourself, who agreed to 10 h, and who is US Airways once a single carrier status is determined? also, ask yourself, what difference does it make that there was no change in the lists at the former airline once we are all incorporated into the single list for all AAL pilots. and, bet your bottom dollar that incorporation will not deviate from the Nic one seniority number amongst the former LCC pilots.

The Army of Xerxes will investigate this propaganda. Little Persians, we need your donations ASAP!