2014 Pilot Discussion

[snapthis]

"This conversation is about as useful as sand in your bathing suit..."
 
LOL...Proper points given snap. That's the best one any of us have thrown for awhile now. 😉

Let's all go to Snap's for a brew!

EastUs and I get along pretty well at the Watercooler. If we can get him in some formal attire and a $675 tie, anything is possible.. 😉

 

[traderjake]

If you and your group had simply honored your agreement like adults you woudn't have to look back at wasted years and infighting.  

 

[algflyr]

 
Is that the APA betting all their widebody flying on an arbitration?? 🙂

 

[traderjake]

 
Is that the APA betting all their widebody flying on an arbitration?? 🙂

 
You're gonna have to come up with something else if you're going to persaude APA to negotiate.
 
You're fear of a fair, enforcable arbitration is noted.    

 

[algflyr]

 
You're gonna have to come up with something else if you're going to persaude APA to negotiate.
 
You're fear of a fair, enforcable arbitration is noted.    

 
Lighten up Francis, it was just a joke, hence the smiley face...

 

[Freighterguynow]

If you and your group had simply honored your agreement like adults you woudn't have to look back at wasted years and infighting.  This is on you.  The west simply wouldn't allow you to fcuk us.

You fail to honor your agreement.

No contract no list.

Membership Ratification.

 

[Freighterguynow]

Individuals acting alone ....

 

[Freighterguynow]

Most da the time ain't no makin sinse though?
It appears that you are the 130 lb 13 yr old wimp talking tough behind a keyboard.

Poor Snappy, all alone muttering about this or that 'soon FOOL soon'

At least when we had Nic4us 'the only accepted list' - 'damages' you two appeared to be having a conversation.

 

[nic4us]

You fail to honor your agreement.
No contract no list.
Membership Ratification.

Not quite,

There is no membership ratification requirement for the seniority list.

The deal is get a contract and it will include the Nic, but the east SCABs violated the terms of that agreement by walking out of negotiations and refusing to negotiate a Nic inclusive contract.

Not to worry, the SCAB union will be gone in short order.

Oh, and BTW, to date, the Nic is still the only accepted system seniority list for all LCC pilots, and get this, LCC and AMR have done a merger deal in which the TWO groups will be integrated.

And, while we are at it.....got that injunction lifted yet? Seems the company has reiterated the fact in their replies to the court that uSCABa is a bunch of POS reneging malcontents, and will as Judge Silver noted, lie cheat and steal whenever given the opportunity.

Have a nice day.

 

[nic4us]

At least when we had Nic4us n.

Still here. Just no need for a back and forth dialog with SCABs. So, I just post the fact for the lurkers.

 

[traderjake]

 
Lighten up Francis, it was just a joke,hence the smiley face...

 
ditto

 

[Claxon]

Not quite,

There is no membership ratification requirement for the seniority list.

The deal is get a contract and it will include the Nic, but the east SCABs violated the terms of that agreement by walking out of negotiations and refusing to negotiate a Nic inclusive contract.

Not to worry, the SCAB union will be gone in short order.

Oh, and BTW, to date, the Nic is still the only accepted system seniority list for all LCC pilots, and get this, LCC and AMR have done a merger deal in which the TWO groups will be integrated.

And, while we are at it.....got that injunction lifted yet? Seems the company has reiterated the fact in their replies to the court that uSCABa is a bunch of POS reneging malcontents, and will as Judge Silver noted, lie cheat and steal whenever given the opportunity.

Have a nice day.

“In the US Airways – America West case, it went to binding arbitration but there was a requirement as part of that that the two unions negotiate a joint contract with the company, which wasn’t done yet.
“And because it wasn’t done yet, the side that didn’t like it could prevent a joint contract from getting done. And because of that, the seniority integration never happened."
 
US Airways president Scott Kirby
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2012/05/kirby-we-expect-an-amr-us-airw.html/

 

[end_of_alpa]

Not quite,

There is no membership ratification requirement for the seniority list.

The deal is get a contract and it will include the Nic, but the east SCABs violated the terms of that agreement by walking out of negotiations and refusing to negotiate a Nic inclusive contract.

Not to worry, the SCAB union will be gone in short order.

Oh, and BTW, to date, the Nic is still the only accepted system seniority list for all LCC pilots, and get this, LCC and AMR have done a merger deal in which the TWO groups will be integrated.

And, while we are at it.....got that injunction lifted yet? Seems the company has reiterated the fact in their replies to the court that uSCABa is a bunch of POS reneging malcontents, and will as Judge Silver noted, lie cheat and steal whenever given the opportunity.

Have a nice day.

You'll need a new job soon, JK.  

 

[Ames]

You fail to honor your agreement.

No contract no list.

Membership Ratification.

The contract is coming.  Membership ratification done with the acceptance of the MOU.  We'll see if you guys are still laughing after that.

 

[Ames]

Trader, I never again will underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups after dealing with the east jihadists for the past eight years.