2014 Pilot Discussion

[Pi brat]

 
 
john mcllvenna, who stood up in a pilot meeting in phx with Doug Parker and claimed he witnessed East pilots that were taxing with both engines and apu's running. 

And asked how to turn them in. Don't leave that out.

 

[Pi brat]

 but we'll some displacement soon in CLT once this merger is completed.

Oh, there will be displacements in CLT. When PHX flying is reduced to what the hub needs, not the MOU requirements.

 

[dca319]

 
Every clerk of court knows that September 2005 is prior to 9 Dec 2013.

And everyone knows those agreements just don't disappear.  Any idea where that protocol agreement is?  Why is it taking so long?  Why the need to remove a particular footnote?

 

[dca319]

Oh, there will be displacements in CLT. When PHX flying is reduced to what the hub needs, not the MOU requirements.

Sure Tony.  I'll put that in my book of sure-things.  Right there next to DOH and Kasher will pay.

 

[Claxon]

Sure Tony.  I'll put that in my book of sure-things.  Right there next to DOH and Kasher will pay.

I do not recall date of hire being officially doomed.  I do not recall the final Kasher results being official.  If you find such documents please provide a link.
 
DOH means america west pilots will be flying wide bodies. A rare and stretch of the imagination three way will doom any such result, you will get what you brought to the merger then, PHX.  
 
Jeff Freund will be telling you to agree on DOH with conditions and restrictions before you show up at your APA alter.

 

[EastUS1]

And everyone knows......

 
While it's naturally axiomatic that all at APA are eagerly awaiting their very first possible chance to build monuments in every base to both the Nic and the mighty "spartans", (and fall to their knees, gratefully thanking "you'se" for "saving" them all) but which "everyone" are "you'se" now babbling about? "The rest of the world", "the rest of the industry", or just responding to the voices inside your head again? 😉

 

[Beancounter]

What don't ya get sonny boy?
Separate Ops, third listers above you - way above ya son.
You paid fer it. Just makin sure yall get it.
2016.

So the judge warns you that you missed being guilty of DFR by the slimest of margins and that is your reply? We're talking, you came so close to impact you've got scrape marks and paint on the side of the van (pun intended). You are one crazed, angry driver. To top it off you think the APA is just going to let you hand them a mess like that? Dude, you seriously need to consider stand up, because you're a riot.

Bean

 

[EastUS1]

So the judge warns you that you missed being guilty of DFR by the slimest of margins .....

 
Bean; that does mean the west lost the case. What actual reasons should the APA now have for any trembling at the very thought of west litigation?

 

[Claxon]

 
Bean; that does mean the west lost the case.

"So the judge warns you that you missed being guilty of DFR by the slimest of margins and that is your reply?"
beancounter west poster

 

This is not a game of horseshoes or hand grenades. It is a court of law.  You lost in your mind because bottom line you got what your brought to the merger, nothing.

Cherry pick this, has been and still are a junior f/o for america west airlines beancounter.
 
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
))
Don Addington, et al, )
)
Plaintiffs, ) JUDGMENT IN A CIVIL CASE
)
v. ) CV 13-0471-PHX-ROS
)
US Airline Pilots Association, et al, )
)
Defendants, )
)
 
XX Decision by Court. This action came for consideration before the Court. The
issues have been considered and a decision has been rendered.
 
IT IS ORDERED AND ADJUDGED that pursuant to the Court's Order of
January 10, 2014, judgment is hereby entered as follows: judgment in favor of
Defendant US Airline Pilots Association on Count I and Count IV, judgment in favor
of US Airways, Inc. on Count II, and a judgment of dismissal without prejudice on
Count III. This action are hereby terminated.
 
January 10, 2014 BRIAN D. KARTH
Date DCE/Clerk of Court
. s/ Ruth E. Williams
By Ruth E. Williams
Deputy Clerk

 

[Beancounter]

Bean; that does mean the west lost the case. What actual reasons should the APA now have for any trembling at the very thought of west litigation?

You're absolutely right. Since you just narrowly missed it, you shouldn't slow down or stop swerving. In fact, since you actually missed it, you can do whatever you want. Put the hammer down and go faster! Forget the straight and narrow, keep swerving. I swear, sometimes I wonder about you guys.

Bean

 

[Claxon]

You're absolutely right. Since you just narrowly missed it, you shouldn't slow down or stop swerving. In fact, since you actually missed it, you can do whatever you want. Put the hammer down and go faster! Forget the straight and narrow, keep swerving. I swear, sometimes I wonder about you guys.

Bean

I rest my case, your witness sir, no further questions.

 

[EastUS1]

You're absolutely right. Since you just narrowly missed it, you shouldn't slow down or stop swerving. In fact, since you actually missed it, you can do whatever you want. Put the hammer down and go faster! Forget the straight and narrow, keep swerving. I swear, sometimes I wonder about you guys.

Bean

 
A lost case is just that, lost, no matter any/all subsequent spin. I must ask again what actual reasons should the APA now have for any trembling at the very thought of west litigation? What legally established foundation has the west that should honestly concern any parties going forward? I'm not trying to play "nyaah, nyaahs" here, but simply wondering what possible basis the west now has for even assuming the nic to be "it", or in anywise mandated, or at all deemed desireable by the APA?
 
I'm entirely unable to see any reasons the APA would/should lie awake at night dreading the possibility of west litigation, and flash pom poms for a nic-based seniority integration that would disadvantage a great many of their own people. Seriously; what's the west basing it's current crop of theories on? Perhaps something along these lines? Even the second time this saw court rooms; we only lost/missed by a little, so next time we're sure to get you all, and your little dog too!...? Really? 😉

 

[Phoenix]

So the judge warns you that you missed being guilty of DFR by the slimest of margins and that is your reply? We're talking, you came so close to impact you've got scrape marks and paint on the side of the van (pun intended). You are one crazed, angry driver. To top it off you think the APA is just going to let you hand them a mess like that? Dude, you seriously need to consider stand up, because you're a riot.

Bean

 
Yes... by the slimmest of margins... Can you tell us how close we came to the edge of the wide range of reasonableness?  Exactly how close to the edge did we come?  Exactly how much further can we still go?  We can always go another half way to the edge...  how much is half way to the edge?  

 

[Claxon]

 
A lost case is just that, lost, no matter any/all subsequent spin. I must ask again what actual reasons should the APA now have for any trembling at the very thought of west litigation? What legally established foundation has the west that should honestly concern any parties going forward? I'm not trying to play "nyaah, nyaahs" here, but simply wondering what possible basis the west now has for even assuming the nic to be "it", or in anywise mandated, or at all deemed desireable by the APA?

These rented mules west pilots do not get it.

 

[Beancounter]

That's right guys/gals, don't listen to me, or Silver, or the company, or the APA, just keep reaching.  The sad thing is you already crossed the line in several areas and don't even seem to know it.  The only reason you won was that all the pieces weren't there yet.  Keep stretching though, just a little more, a little more.  When the APA pulls the ladder out from under you/us, you'll have to forgive me if I tell you I told you so.
 
Bean