2014 Pilot Discussion

[Phoenix]

cut off your nose to spite your face

 
 
772 PHX pilots voted... 761 voted against their own best interests.  98.5%...
 
So now we know there are no more than 761 "Liberty Neck Ties"... at the very most.  Probably far fewer.  

 

[A320 Driver]

Someone please enlighten me on what difference it makes who pulls the plug on USAPA, the BPR or the officers. The only difference I can see is the BPR is now denied one last meaningless and nearly endless discussion that ultimately ends up in another controversy.

 

[traderjake]

772 PHX pilots voted... 761 voted against their own best interests.  98.5%... 

 
They're lucky they have you and USAPA to tell them what their own best interest is.
 

 
 

 

[snapthis]

It's on the USAPA site. It passed

It failed

3-8.

AWEsome 😉

 

[traderjake]

The only difference I can see is the BPR is now denied one last meaningless and nearly endless discussion that ultimately ends up in another controversy.

 
They're denied voting to continue their FPL and keeping our money.

 

[Phoenix]

Someone please enlighten me on what difference it makes who pulls the plug on USAPA, the BPR or the officers. The only difference I can see is the BPR is now denied one last meaningless and nearly endless discussion that ultimately ends up in another controversy.

 
The members voted USAPA into existence.   The Reps control when a meeting is adjourned.  The officers should not have the power to dissolve it.  
 
The West are blinded with hate and discontent, and the APA will use it to the best advantage.  
 
Meanwhile another permanent bid is about to be published!  Again!

 

[Phoenix]

 
 
772 PHX pilots voted... 761 voted against their own best interests.  98.5%...
 
So now we know there are no more than 761 "Liberty Neck Ties"... at the very most.    Probably far fewer.  
 

 

 
 
They're lucky they have you and USAPA to tell them what their own best interest is.
 

 
 

 

 
 
I am so sorry.  I have made a terrible mistake.  There are at most no more than 762 Liberty Neck Ties.  I pledge to never forget again how important you see yourself to be to their cause.  🙂

 

[A320 Driver]

 
 The officers should not have the power to dissolve it.  
 

The membership says different. Ultimately it won't matter IMO.

 

[traderjake]

 
The members voted USAPA into existence The Reps control when a meeting is adjourned.  The officers should not have the power to dissolve it.

 
The Reps wanted remove the Officers, the members said No.

 

[Phoenix]

The membership says different. Ultimately it won't matter IMO.

 
 
Actually 54% of voting members said yes.  Ultimately it probably won't matter, but the West is desperate for any consolation they can get.     

 

[Phoenix]

 

[algflyr]

It failed

3-8.

AWEsome 😉

 
Just curious snap, What is the motivation for the west voting no? I'll give you that you guys vote in a block well. I could only wish we could have that unity across our whole pilot group. Perhaps one day..
 
But it seems to me that when the end comes and maybe some last minute decisions need to be made, you choose not to have you elected West Reps have any input... And choose to leave it to a couple of individuals instead... 

 

[Pi brat]

Eh, the amendment failed. What I really want Nicless to tell me is where is the announcement from the NMB about SCS that was supposed to happen today?

 

[electricjet98]

Just curious snap, What is the motivation for the west voting no? I'll give you that you guys vote in a block well. I could only wish we could have that unity across our whole pilot group. Perhaps one day..

Doubt it...you guys pretty much screwed that up for all of us.

 

But it seems to me that when the end comes and maybe some last minute decisions need to be made, you choose not to have you elected West Reps have any input... And choose to leave it to a couple of individuals instead...

Like west Reps have ever had any input that was rationally considered? No...besides, with liability of distributing the remaining union funds in a timely manner and the potential penalty shared amongst fewer individuals...the more likely they will be to make better decisions.

 

[snapthis]

Just curious snap, What is the motivation for the west voting no? I'll give you that you guys vote in a block well. I could only wish we could have that unity across our whole pilot group. Perhaps one day..
 
But it seems to me that when the end comes and maybe some last minute decisions need to be made, you choose not to have you elected West Reps have any input... And choose to leave it to a couple of individuals instead...

If Coutney Luv votes yes, I'm voting no.

He's not very bright. Not the sharpest tool in the shed. One beer short of a six pack.

I'm curious why 11 voted yes against their best interests in PHX?