2015 Pilot Discussion.

[dariencc]

You forgot our Narcasssststic Auxier !

 
Yeah, I didn't really want to go there because he came out smelling like a rose.  Same with Kothny.
 
Cap'n Aux      3977
 
Kothny           3381

 

[Hawkhunter]

 
Yeah, I didn't really want to go there because he came out smelling like a rose.  Same with Kothny.
 
Cap'n Aux      3977
 
Kothny           3381

The LAA guys will always look at them as nothing but scabs. 

 

[dariencc]

 
Yeah, I didn't really want to go there because he came out smelling like a rose.  Same with Kothny.
 
Cap'n Aux      3977
 
Kothny           3381

 
Minor celebrity Chip Munn, featured below at the :38 second mark, came out ahead of both at 2810.
 
Chip's prediction that the Nicolau would never be overturned was every bit as accurate as his many other predictions.  Nevertheless, it's time to bury the hatchet and get behind the electrifying movement to elect Chip and Andy Reitz to APA office. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gu31UzkhdU

 

[dariencc]

The very bitter and out-spoken CLT fife player who left LUS in '04 for AWA and testified against us in the first arbitration hearings. 11010. You do not want to run into this man on the jumpseat.

 
Stephen Bradford      5507     Clint Eastwood would have played this guy.
 
Hey, if you double 5507, you get 11114.  That's pretty close to 11010.  I've concluded Fife is a dummy.

 

[AWE Dog]

How did prechil do ??

 

[swamt]

Glad to see a Wrong has been Righted.  Not having access to the list, it sounds like the Senior AWA guys got what they deserved? and no longer get Screwed by the JR F/O's.  

In laymen terms how were the 3 list combined?  Did some get a boosted seniority in the final outcome?

Not really, the senior AWA guys got two free years of seniority, they have some placed in with 81 hires, AWA did not come into existence till late 83. Very lucky for them

So are you saying the AWA pilots made out the best overall? Or was this filtered throughout the list in %'s?

 

[Claxon]

David Simmons will not be bidding PHL 757 Cap as he so oft claimed. He will be lucky to get a 190 left seat.
Word has it that he and Donna Rice will be resurrecting the No Excuses brand of jeans to offset some of that damage done at Wye River.

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Gary+Hart+Donna+Rice+Gary+Hart+Turns+75+H_nD6AFSIdSx.jpg

 

[Claxon]

Munn and the Lav Specialist/ Labor expert 700UW can discuss their failed predictions over a lunch of brown trout from the truck......

https://youtu.be/BXOuuvpdpMM

 

[Phoenix]

I gotta hand it to the Cactus Leonidas Forum guys:
 
http://cp.cactuspilots.us/forum.php
 

In the interest of moving forward
with a single seniority list for ALL
pilots this forum has been
permanently closed. Thank you for
your participation.

 

[CAVOK]

 
Stephen Bradford      5507     Clint Eastwood would have played this guy.
 
Hey, if you double 5507, you get 11114.  That's pretty close to 11010.  I've concluded Fife is a dummy.

The LUS/AWA testifying fife performer certainly falls right in with 924BS and the Traitor, honorary AOL members. Unlike the trader joke, he does not want to be a F/O his entire career. The small, shrill flute player is "platinum" AOL. He wanted the entire group of LUS pilots suffer for his extremely poor career choice. Believe me, you do not want to run into him, a CLT/PHX commuter himself, on the jumpseat. He can be extremely vitriolic. We certainly did not have anything to do with his career decision. I have been on this roller coaster ride with every other pilot, just going to work and flying my trips and hoping for the best year in and year out. I will be gone soon enough having worked three and a half decades, nearly all of my career, under DOH. 
 
11010. Wow, just wow. He must have given up 17 years at LUS to be a new hire in 2004 at AWA. 

 

[dariencc]

Wrong, changing unions will not stop the award, arbitrations are precedent setting, if you change unions the award as your CBA will still be in effect.

Maybe you should all take the time and educate yourself.

 
 
We didn't have to educate ourselves.  We just had to hire Lee Seham, who educated himself at Amherst and NYU Law.  But thanks again for all the helpful advice.   
 

 
Lee Seham, who graduated magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa from Amherst College, received his law degree from New York University School of Law (“NYU”), where he served on the NYU Law Review. Mr. Seham’s expertise as a labor, employment and immigration attorney is widely recognized; he has litigated in numerous jurisdictions, including New York, New Jersey, Illinois, Florida, Texas, California, Tennessee, Washington, Minnesota, North Carolina, Arizona and Georgia. His representation of clients in the airline and maritime industries has included collective bargaining, NLRB and NMB hearings, arbitration, DOT administrative hearings and advocacy before a Presidential Emergency Board.
Mr. Seham was named Westchester County’s Leading Litigator in the 2009 Above the Bar Awards.
Mr. Seham is a frequent lecturer on such varied topics as sexual harassment, the “Americans with Disabilities Act,” the “Family and Medical Leave Act” and the “Fair Labor Standards Act”.

 

[AWE Dog]

It seems they reduced the longevity until it was your approximately your relative position in your prior list. Bingo 15% east, west then 15% lus to laa. Otherwise where did this 15% number come from? Of coarse relative position from 2013 to present is a big difference in the east list. I lost 9 years to Laa and 10 years to the west.

 

[dariencc]

2:37 mark.  There goes the Nic!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=169&v=BXOuuvpdpMM

 

[Crzipilot]

In laymen terms how were the 3 list combined?  Did some get a boosted seniority in the final outcome?
So are you saying the AWA pilots made out the best overall? Or was this filtered throughout the list in %'s?

 
In laymans terms,   The arbitrators combined East and West lists.    They then combined that with the LAA list.     Using 15% longevity and 85% status category as the ratios..     Ask someone else what that means.   Not smart enough to figure it out.

 

[justice4all]

It means for a distinguished gentlemen like yourself 85% of your sweat, of your time, and of your life spent in the tube means...zip, nada, nothing...even criminals get credit for time served...not pilots