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cactusboy53 said:
 
No running.  ...
 
P.S. A half point grudgingly given, since I'm a bit surprised "you'se" even dared show up to ever again post here "Dorothy"....even it it was just to whine about your pwecious widdle feewings and what "extreme offense" you've so cruelly suffered after merely 9 years of lying to and hopelessly misleading a mindless flock of equally ignorant "spartan" lemmings off the cliff with you.  I'll wish good fortune to your sad sorts, with the hope that no "flash mob" of previously devoted "spartans"/village idiots/etc, that were lied to for so long by you utter idiots ever materializes in an airport/wherever with lynching on their agenda.
 
Just curious; what is the current resale "value" of "Integrity Matters" T-shirts, Cactus 18 "bling" and of course "Liberty" ties these days?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7lgU3J5seA
 
 
 
 
 "A week has gone by and we remain as shocked as you are by the ISL award. While we did not know what the award would be, no one expected the Board of Arbitrators (BOA) to punish the West pilots for successfully defending our legal rights for the past nine years" Seriously? Anyone with an above room temperature IQ didn't really expect to see the Nic on the final menu, but no matter. Never too late to really, really "matter" with all that "righteous" arrogance, clueless kiddies: http://www.cactuspilotcontributors.com/libertynecktie.html
 
Oh, and don't forget to "Push for Justice" always.....but always be careful about what "justice"you ask for in life, especially if "you'se" are just some new hire, worthless punk wanting to steal 17 years of actual work from other people: http://www.cactuspilotcontributors.com/contribute.html
 
jcw said:
How do all the ties look today out west
 
I hear that, to best spare "spartan", umm..."feewings" that consideration's being given to permitting the more proper wear of Dunce Caps instead, with of course tribal T shirts reflecting the proud "spartan" cultural heritage of distinguished ritual attire of that sort. The "Liberty" ties topped out at $675, but, given the target audience, I'd expect the Zippy shirts to easily bring in over $1,000 apiece:
 
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4 ... Oops...5 snotty posts from EastUS.  What a surprise.  Good for you. 
 
Eventus stultorum magister, sir.
 
cactusboy53 said:
4 ... Oops...5 snotty posts from EastUS.  What a surprise.  Good for you. 
 
Eventus stultorum magister, sir.
 
Sigh...That honestly reflects your very best effort? Small wonder "you'se" were so easily outmaneuvered and defeated.
 
No hard feelings here though, and I'll even send you a free Zippy T shirt if it'd help you in your current struggles with any/all "that offends me personally to the extreme".....? Hmm...perhaps I should instead market an easily inflatable "Safe Space"/play room for failed "spartans" with, marginally unlike the below linked of course, both an "heroic" and "soldierly" theme ?
 
https://www.diapers.com/p/little-tikes-double-fun-slide-n-bounce-bouncer-802418?site=CA&sku=VX-395&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc_D&utm_campaign=GooglePLA&utm_content=pla&ca_sku=VX-395&ca_gpa=pla&ca_kw=&cvosrc=cse.google.VX-395&cvo_crid=49550032297
 
Of course should my "snotty posts" serve to ever dare do anything that "offends" you "personally to the extreme"; you could always accept my many years offered, recreational flying wager and personally show me just who's who and what's what, mighty "spartan" 😉
 
cactusboy53 said:
4 ... Oops...5 snotty posts from EastUS.  What a surprise.  Good for you. 
 
Eventus stultorum magister, sir.
 
In full fairness, after your acknowledgement that eventus stultorum magister, aka "The outcome is the teacher of fools" was posted...I should have and will now leave you in peace for the time being. I hope that you've indeed learned something through all this. A gently suggested protocol for your future dealings within our species involves a bit less childish braggadocio and wholly unsupportable arrogance.
 
cactusboy53 said:
No running.  There is really nothing that I could put to words here that would keep you all from creaming yourselves over the SLI.  Good for you.  I'm sure that you will get all that you deserve.
 
My expectation is that you (and ALL of our pilots) keep a professional demeanor and civil tongue when any pilot requests a jumpseat or operates with you as a crew member.  I already have one person that has sent a vulgar remark that offends me personally to the extreme.
And the vulgar remark most likely originated from a PHX pilot who you and Ferguson mislead ( to the benefit of a very stupid attorney) for years. Ask CJ Szmal. Despite his admonition that the SLI is final and binding, he seems to understand very clearly how USAPA legally out maneuvered the west. Where was he 10 yrs ago?
He has a firm grasp that east pilots did know how to legally outmaneuver the Nic. Everyone knew, except you and the other Angry F/O contingent land grabbers in PHX.
You cost your fellow pilots millions, for nothing.
Sad, how an honestly inept group of pilot wannabe lawyers (Vasin, Koontz) had no business telling their fellow pilots anything. 10 yrs of utterly stupid ties, videos, court cases for zip.
 
Here is where young Mitchell Vasin received his training on how to hopelessly pursue the Nicolau list for ten fruitless years......




Did a bunch of bad law schools hire Sterling Cooper to handle their marketing? Name changes are the go-to move for the titular ad agency in Mad Men. But here in real life, it seems like law schools are more interested in changing their name than changing their product.

We discussed Thomas Cooley Law School’s name change to the “Western Michigan University Thomas M. Cooley Law School.” As the internet has caught onto the business model of Cooley, the administration figured that associating themselves with a larger university would throw people off the scent.

Evidently, the Infilaw-owned Phoenix Law School couldn’t find a research university dumb enough to allow its name to be sullied by association with a low-end law school. So Phoenix Law just made something up…


Phoenix School of Law has renamed itself “Arizona Summit Law School.” I think we’re all used to directionally named law schools, but by invoking the word “summit,” Phoenix has taken it to the third dimension. The National Law Journal reports:

“The new name highlights our commitment to the success of our students who come from diverse backgrounds and stages in life and provides a supportive academic environment where civic-minded leaders and community advocates are nurtured,” Dean Shirley Mays said.

The change is accompanied by a new website, logo and advertising campaign.

The move comes at a challenging time for the downtown Phoenix law school, one of Infilaw Holding LLC’s consortium of for-profit schools. The school enrolled just 197 new students this fall, down from the 380 1Ls who began at this time last year. That represents a 48 percent decline, a steeper drop-off than most law schools saw this year.

Spare me your platitudes about student success and commute advocates. Arizona Summit (née Phoenix School of Law) is still charging people $41,114 in tuition and fees for an unranked law school. That is why nobody intelligent wants to go there. You can change your name and your logo and your website, but until you change your unreasonable tuition, you’re still a bad deal.

Changing their name to escape their Google footprint is really Arizona Summit’s way of saying that it hopes their applicants are too stupid to effectively research on the internet. If you Google “Arizona Summit” and somehow miss that this is an Infilaw holding that used to be called Phoenix School of Law (and all that that entails), then you are a dumbass, plain and simple. If you apply to Arizona Summit because you think it’s different than Phoenix Law, I don’t even have a word for you.

Individual applicants might be dumb, but Google is not. Like so many things that happen in Mad Men, things that worked in the sixties aren’t going to fly in 2013.
 
From: u-turn [mailto:awapilots@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:06 PM
Subject: U-Turn: Where Politics Needs to Stop

U-Turn Nation:

Under the heading of "You can't make up this stuff," we read the below on a popular blog entitled flightinfo.com. It is reposted in its entirety, without edit. As we have often posted, U-Turn will not get into the Addington DFR debate. That will be solved by the courts. But attempting to turn Captain Sullenberger's appointment to US Airways' management safety team into a political issue? All we can say is consider the source.

U-Turn will accept letters expressing differing opinions, but we also reserve the right not to post them. U-Turn believes that safety is not and should never be turned into a political issue.




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Sully, welcome to Phoenix
Open letter to Doug Parker.

September 28, 2009
Mr. Douglas Parker
CEO & Chairman of the Board
US Airways, Inc.
111 W. Rio Salado Parkway
Tempe, Arizona 85281

VIA EMAIL

Dear Doug:

I'm writing to express my complete and utter disappointment with
today's announcement that Captain Sullenberger will be appointed to a
management position within the company. In fact, as a result of Capt.
Sullenberger's decision to use his new found fame as a weapon against
1800 former America West pilots in a recent federal court case over
pilot seniority, I find the company's announcement particularly
insulting. Not only does this decision now forever discredit the
company's purported "neutrality" in the pilot seniority issue, but it
also calls in to question the credibility of the entire safety
management team. As I hope you'll agree, it is in everybody's best
interests to keep flight safety an issue that is far removed from
politics.

I can respect that Capt. Sullenberger has his own personal opinions
regarding the seniority situation, however, I believe that his
decision to testify in court raises reasonable question as to his
ability to adequately perform his new duties without bias. Capt.
Sullenberger did not provide any relevant testimony in the case, and
was only called to testify by USAPA in the hopes that his celebrity
status would unfairly influence a jury. Instead of limiting the use
his celebrity status in support of productive goals such as promoting
aviation safety and the image of US Airways, he blatantly abused that
status by unnecessarily inserting himself on the losing side of an
issue that he played no prior role in. I cannot be reasonably assured
that he would not similarly misuse his position in management.

While I'm certain that this letter will fall on deaf ears, I can
assure you that this letter by no means an end to this issue, and that
you will be in need of much more than a well polished statement at a
crew news session to address it.

Sincerely,
/s/
Mitch Vasin
PHX 320 FO
 
Nice job Mitch.....

Blow millions down a rat hole and attack a true national hero. what future endeavors lay ahead for you?
 
Claxon said:
And the vulgar remark most likely originated from a PHX pilot who you and Ferguson mislead ( to the benefit of a very stupid attorney) for years. Ask CJ Szmal. Despite his admonition that the SLI is final and binding, he seems to understand very clearly how USAPA legally out maneuvered the west. Where was he 10 yrs ago?
He has a firm grasp that east pilots did know how to legally outmaneuver the Nic. Everyone knew, except you and the other Angry F/O contingent land grabbers in PHX.
You cost your fellow pilots millions, for nothing.
Sad, how an honestly inept group of pilot wannabe lawyers (Vasin, Koontz) had no business telling their fellow pilots anything. 10 yrs of utterly stupid ties, videos, court cases for zip.
And all we had to do was to bend to your addled minded cry that the final & binding arbitration was unfair, and that we should negotiate AWAY from the product of an agreed upon process UNTIL you thought it was fair?  No thanks.
 
Noted Airline Industry expert Bob Mann said this:
 
'Binding arbitration' just died with arbitrators re-interpreting the facts of 2005-2013, and "re-awarding" the binding 2008 #Nicolau Seniority List Award.
 
And with that, many more RLA and NMB processes become irrelevant, other than to inject unconscionable delays, denominated in years.
 
I'll keep my integrity & you can take your ill gotten gains & pay for your actions later.  I have no regrets for any of our DEFENSIVE actions.  I sleep well every night knowing that I and all the others defended against your actions, attacks & harm.  If you sleep well it is because you have no understanding of keeping your word, honor, integrity, or moral compass.
 
dariencc said:
"Today I scammed the Beau Rivage casino with a fake credit card, beat the snot out of my wife and exposed Sully for the fraud that he is.  Who's ready for a drink?!"
 






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Here is another genius attacking a true national hero
 
FL430 said:
Looks like our resident TOGA expert is well known by the Biloxi police department as well for credit card fraud?
Go talk to CJ . He is a lot smarter than you.

Does Giroir wear that INTEGRITY T Shirt?
 
cactusboy53 said:
And all we had to do was to bend to your addled minded cry that the final & binding arbitration was unfair, and that we should negotiate AWAY from the product of an agreed upon process UNTIL you thought it was fair?  No thanks.
 
 
Well yeah, "you'se" should have at least considered the thought of additional negotiation. My posting here shortly after the nic was announced: "Um guys/gals? This nic thing isn't really going to work. Can we talk?" Fully NINE years of "spartan" nonsense serving only to prove that "This nic thing" did NOT really work, now did it? NOTHING in all this absolutely required an elevation of an arbitrator's insanity to the level of internecine conflict of the magnitude seen. Childish crap like "We saved you!"/"Final and Binding..It's OVER!..Get used to it!"/"The nic will be crammed down your throats!"/"This is Sparta!"/etc, helped ANYone HOW? Bottom Line here is just how well did all that "righteous" intransigence actually work out for you guys/gals instead? Where did all that wholesale disrespect for your supposedly "fellow pilots" get you? You must realize that all you're now talking about is your "feelings", versus actual events, and good luck with "feelings" EVER making any difference to history at all.
 
Have a good day/Take care/Fly safe/etc.
 
cactusboy53 said:
And all we had to do was to bend to your addled minded cry that the final & binding arbitration was unfair, and that we should negotiate AWAY from the product of an agreed upon process UNTIL you thought it was fair?  No thanks.
 
Noted Airline Industry expert Bob Mann said this:
 
'Binding arbitration' just died with arbitrators re-interpreting the facts of 2005-2013, and "re-awarding" the binding 2008 #Nicolau Seniority List Award.
 
And with that, many more RLA and NMB processes become irrelevant, other than to inject unconscionable delays, denominated in years.
 
I'll keep my integrity & you can take your ill gotten gains & pay for your actions later.  I have no regrets for any of our DEFENSIVE actions.  I sleep well every night knowing that I and all the others defended against your actions, attacks & harm.  If you sleep well it is because you have no understanding of keeping your word, honor, integrity, or moral compass.
Bob Mann might be an "aviation expert" but he is ignorant about contract law, especially as it relates to governing voluntary arbitration.

Bob Mann should have consulted the West pilots who are now on C&R explaining the nuances of contract law to the reAAl pilots who are butt-hurt over the SLI.

The West guys understand perfectly and could disabuse Bob Mann of his unfounded fears of the integrity of arbitration.
 
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