2015 Pilot Discussion.

[cactusboy53]

Oh it will be, Johnny Boy. It will be. ;-)

 

[EastUS1]

Oh it will be, Johnny Boy. It will be. ;-)

 
Well, if it truly ends up being at all "fair and equitable", it will amount to nothing short of "you'se" worst nightmares coming true. 😉

 

[cactusboy53]

I keep hearing this periodic buzzing/clicking sound...then some sort of aeronautical challenge.....oops, more buzzing & clicking..... weird.

 

[Phoenix]

Weird is the obsession you have to persuade message board readers (who have no influence).. Or perhaps you are gloating ahead of time (as you have done so successfully in the past).

Whatever. The arbs will explain what is fair and equitable and we will all live happily ever after.

 

[EastUS1]

I keep hearing this periodic buzzing/clicking sound...then some sort of aeronautical challenge.....oops, more buzzing & clicking..... weird.

 
Weird indeed. "You'se" might want to see an otolaryngologist (and/or psychiatrist) about that.

 

[cactusboy53]

Weird is the obsession you have to persuade message board readers (who have no influence).. Or perhaps you are gloating ahead of time (as you have done so successfully in the past).
Whatever. The arbs will explain what is fair and equitable and we will all live happily ever after.

I'm not the guy with "the nic is dead" as his tag line, Scotty. I haven't the slightest idea exactly what the BOA will rule. What I DO post is the factual testimony, dicta, & order (s) from US District Court Judges, seasoned arbitrators, company VP'S/ Legal Counsel (& of course El Presidente Mike Cleary).

Oh, BTW, respected arbitrator Nicolau explained to you once before how he got to that delivered list. Any chance at all you boys will read this BOA's explanation and you'll "get it" (this time)??

 

[Phoenix]

I'm not the guy with "the nic is dead" as his tag line, Scotty. I haven't the slightest idea exactly what the BOA will rule. What I DO post is the factual testimony, dicta, & order (s) from US District Court Judges, seasoned arbitrators, company VP'S/ Legal Counsel (& of course El Presidente Mike Cleary).
Oh, BTW, respected arbitrator Nicolau explained to you once before how he got to that delivered list. Any chance at all you boys will read this BOA's explanation and you'll "get it" (this time)??

You have had a Scotty fetish for a long time. That alone proves you are more ignorant than you realize.

Prepare to live happily ever after as a member of your new family. It's inevitable. 😀

 

[cactusboy53]

You have had a Scotty fetish for a long time. That alone proves you are more ignorant than you realize.
Prepare to live happily ever after as a member of your new family. It's inevitable. 😀

Since you like to skulk around as anonymous web board bullies, I felt like giving you a name. You seemed like a "Scotty".

Using Phoenix left me to conclude you are either from there and/or you live there.

Don't like it? Tough nuts.

 

[traderjake]

He prefers Sofa King. 😀

 

[Phoenix]

Since you like to skulk around as anonymous web board bullies, I felt like giving you a name. You seemed like a "Scotty".
Using Phoenix left me to conclude you are either from there and/or you live there.
Don't like it? Tough nuts.

Like it? I love that you glory in your ignorance and console yourself with assumptions.

Carry on, soldier!

 

[traderjake]

Ignorance?       Assumptions?
 
Did you ever admit you were wrong about the West getting a merger committee?
 
Carry on Perry Mason.

 

[Phoenix]

You are still trying to argue a "legal issue"..and that in front of an arb... I.E. You are the only one who isn't arguing about "fair and equitable".
Let's see, has anyone chosen to argue legalities rather than"fair and equitable" lately (and lost)... Yes. You might remember a group that argued the west pilot group was not legally entitled to a merger committee (and there was a legal ruling that said as much!!) but because it is fair and equitable for the west to have their own voice, you have a committee!!
Now that you have a committee (not on legal arguments, but on fair and equitable arguments) far be it from me to tell you that you can't persist in a legal argument in front of arbs (that are persuaded by fair and equitable rather than legal rulings, and you don't even have a legal ruling about the Nic.).
Good luck!!

The Nic is final and binding! Final and Binding! FINAL AND BINDING!!!! FINAL AND BINDING!!!!

 

[traderjake]

Two of the three MCs say using the Nicolau Award as the starting point is "fair and equitable".

 

[Phoenix]

Two merger committees use the Nic as the starting point based on a presumption of legal necessity.  
 
The West has always assumed the Nic was a legal necessity (as the 9th explained to them).  The West continues to push the "final and binding" legal premise despite the explicit refusal of any court to ever confirm that premise (and even the explicit rejection of same).  If the BOA will accept the West's legal conclusion as the foundation (indeed as the legal status quo) to begin their "fair and equitable" reasoning then it will be an obvious benefit to the West (at the expense of the other two committees).  
 
The LAA committee made a radical departure from their previous proposal, choosing to adopt the Nic as a legal assumption, at the behest of the tepid 9th ruling and their assumption about what Silver would do (but she didn't).  They abandoned the three list merge of the PA for a two list merge.  However their inclusion of the "legally binding Nic" was immediately used to show how terribly unfair it would be to former LAA pilots.  They heartily agreed with elevating the West as an opportunity to right a wrong by collectively pushing all former LUS pilots down together  (at the expense of the other two committees) to rebalance to a fair and equitable result.
 
Both committees arguing for the Nic used it based upon the assumption that it should be the status quo to begin discussions about a fair and equitable SLI (and each for their own designs).  
 
Maybe the BOA will accept their legal premise.  Its worth a try!!!

 

[traderjake]

Maybe the BOA doesn't need any legal argument to force them use the Nicolau Award as the starting point.
 
Maybe they will use it because two of the MCs are asking for it and Nicolau already did some of the work for them.