2015 Pilot Discussion.

[cactusboy53]

at the time of the merger AWA couldn't buy a belt loader .it's well documented the financing came from the east  side " acquiring " ? AWA acquired nothing

Wrong.

 

[cactusboy53]

Dispite all the pilot turmoil in the end merging with US is probably the best thing to happen to AWA

Yea....we said that every time USAPA prosecuted, persecuted and attacked us (not). You really should stop quoting company mouth-pieces looking to assuage the entitled-minded.

 

[cactusboy53]

What wholesale BS. You're simply far too much of a complete joke of a "pilot" or even "man"/person to accept the the wager, and you know it. Who do "you'se" really think you're kidding here? Loser also buys dinner, btw, during which you can regale me with all your "war" stories as a "spartan soldier". 😉
 
cactusboy: "The word if the day challenged" is exactly right. PM for details and arrangements.
 
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Whatever Michelle.

 

[AA76LRdvr]

Cool. More entitlement attitude. You want to know why there's a McCaskill/Bond law? That's why there's a McCaskill/Bond law.
Just like we experienced 10 years ago when AWA Holdings aquired US Air.
You want to hear something funny? At a USAPA BPR meeting, it was overheard "Why are we merging with a bankrupt airline?". I was there, and looked at the speaker.."Really???". With a deer-in-the-headlights look, this Einstien says.."What?"

All of of us knows your scab history, you are way worst than any of the east.
Keep the law suits up its good for all us

 

[cactusboy53]

All of of us knows your scab history, you are way worst than any of the east.
Keep the law suits up its good for all us

Awesome. Entitlement & name calling. I think our lawsuits are just finishing up. You did see the MDA pilots already drew "1st blood" and filed suit about their hire date (an already determined tenet in court & arbitration, I believe).

 

[AA76LRdvr]

Awesome. Entitlement & name calling. I think our lawsuits are just finishing up. You did see the MDA pilots already drew "1st blood" and filed suit about their hire date (an already determined tenet in court & arbitration, I believe).

We would like to see this tied up for years........separate ops works for us.



PS .......your management is the worst we have ever had.......and they should have their proper seniority.........did you not support them or did you shoot them down? Just curious .






Most of us don't care about either one of you .............we'll take it from here.

 

[cactusboy53]

We would like to see this tied up for years........separate ops works for us.
PS .......your management is the worst we have ever had.......and they should have their proper seniority.........did you not support them or did you shoot them down? Just curious .
Most of us don't care about either one of you .............we'll take it from here.

That's funny coming from someone that was willing to sign ANYTHING to rid yourself of your old management.

 

[Res Judicata]

That's funny coming from someone that was willing to sign ANYTHING to rid yourself of your old management.

This is just a usual suspect East scab with a new name. Ignore.

 

[Ames]

This is just a usual suspect East scab with a new name. Ignore.

I do hope you're right.  Bad enough having to deal with eastholes.  Now it may be AAholes.

 

[cactusboy53]

This is just a usual suspect East scab with a new name. Ignore.

What??!!?? A US Air pilot posing as a AAL pilot on this board? Wouldn't that be dishonest? Lucky for us we have airlinforums monitors watching for such deceitful activity!!! ;-)

 

[nevergiveup]

I do hope you're right.  Bad enough having to deal with eastholes.  Now it may be AAholes.

 
Build yourself a wall around Phoenix!

 

[Res Judicata]

 
Build yourself a wall around Phoenix!

Looks like the scab hypocrits in PHL are threatening a DFR suit. Hysterical.

 

[Phoenix]

No one out East ever objected to your vigorous DFR lawsuits. 
 
The more Liberty Ties that wondered the airport halls, the better!

 

[luvthe9]

Looks like the scab hypocrits in PHL are threatening a DFR suit. Hysterical.

Everyone would like to see this dragged out some more, right, well I guess if your not locked in the fishbow


It's funny some AA guys are even donating.

 

[cactusboy53]

Everyone would like to see this dragged out some more, right, well I guess if your not locked in the fishbow


It's funny some AA guys are even donating.

 
Kids;
Today's phrase is "WIDE RANGE OF REASONABLENESS".  Here it is used in an actual court document:
 
We hold that the rule announced in Vaca v. Sipes, 386 U.S. 171, 190 (1967) — that a union breaches its duty of fair representation if its actions are either "arbitrary, discriminatory, or in bad faith" — applies to all union activity, including contract negotiation. We further hold that a union's actions are arbitrary only if, in light of the factual and legal landscape at the time of the union's actions, the union's behavior is so far outside a "wide range of reasonableness," Ford Motor Co. v. Huffman, 345 U.S. 330, 338 (1953), as to be irrational.
 
What this means is that the Collective Bargaining Agent has pretty wide lattitude to deliver "fair representation" to it's dues paying members.  Duty of Fair representation is a VERY DIFFICULT thing to prove because of the "wide range of reasonableness".  In fact, DFR guilt has only been assigned a couple of times.  The former "union" of the Legacy US Airways pilots is one such case, where the courts determined the following:
 
US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit                                                                       26 June 2015
 

“…USAPA has served as the stalking horse for the East Pilots’ exclusive interests and left the West Pilots bereft of representation.  USAPA’s manifest disregard for the interests of the West Pilots and its discriminatory conduct towards them constitutes a clear breach of duty.  Accordingly, we reverse the district court’s conclusion that USAPA did not breach its duty of fair representation, and remand with instructions to enjoin USAPA from participating in the McCaskill-Bond proceedings except to the extent that USAPA will advocate the Nicolau Award..”