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Just to change the subject for a minute… Am I the only one that thinks its business as usually, for the company to tell the media that they intend to improve a/c utilization by 230 flights in February? I mean lets face it, even if the company survives that long, could they possible be so out of touch as to believe that this group of employees is going to go the extra mile needed to improve turn around times by 15%? Time for a pee test for all upper management, and quick!

Oh wait, I forgot, they’re just pathologically liars! Whew, that was close!
 
well, I don't think that they've announced the shortening of short turn times, but couldn't the airline improve by just not scheduling really long turn times?
 
To the employees - "We're going to add to the active fleet and do all these wonderful things. It'll be great."

To the public - "We're going to offer all these new flights. It'll be great."

To the judge - "We need more time to decide how many of the planes we want to keep."

Jim
 
Airline CEO's agree that the industry has too much capacity, and that capacity at these fuel costs need to be reduced.

However, no single airline is willing to voluntarily lose market share or shelve growth plans... So every airline continues to add capacity while everyone knows that it needs to be reduced. Its shear lunacy.
 
From the Crybabies: "Whaaaa, they company never does anything but ask for concessions to improve the balance sheet"

at the same time...

From the Crybabies: "Whaaaa, it is stupid for the company to better utlilize the aircraft and people we already have, whaaa"


Geeze, make up your minds already.
 
If the company's proposed cuts come to pass in any form similar to what they put out to IAM-fleet and CWA, the company's wish for their senior workforce to just go away will start to occur. I can only guess that the plan would be to implement it in stages if schedule continuity and schedule growth are really wanted. Otherwise the "real plan" is to have a mass exodus along with a fleet reduction, and gradually build back up with all the new bodies in at starting pay. I suspect that the training dept is going to be the real growth dept. with long term security due to massive and constant turnover.
 
funguy2 said:
Airline CEO's agree that the industry has too much capacity, and that capacity at these fuel costs need to be reduced.

However, no single airline is willing to voluntarily lose market share or shelve growth plans... So every airline continues to add capacity while everyone knows that it needs to be reduced. Its shear lunacy.
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AA had scheduled to bring 20 planes out from temp storage. With fuel prices and other cost being what they are. They feel the prudent choice is to wait on the return of those planes and send 15 more to storage. We are bringing our capacity more in line with the market.
 
Rico said:
From the Crybabies: "Whaaaa, they company never does anything but ask for concessions to improve the balance sheet"

at the same time...

From the Crybabies: "Whaaaa, it is stupid for the company to better utlilize the aircraft and people we already have, whaaa"
Geeze, make up your minds already.
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US Airways adding capacity in an attempt to lower its CASM is probably the right thing for US Airways to do. However, it will have a downward pressure on RASM, not only for US Airways, but also for the industry.

That is the paradox. It is extremely difficult to "shrink" to profitability in this industry, even when the industry clearly needs less capacity to help all companies. This forces the bankruptcies and shakeouts...

If airlines could grow and shrink as demand dictates (like a chain restaurant can), the industry would be a much more stable place. However, a number of things prevent this in the airline industry.
 
How about adding another 230 flights into Philadelphia?...They have nothing to do around there...They have plenty of people....They will have great weather in Philadelphia in February.... February is ice storm time, in Charlotte......Yikes!

Seems to me if they are adding an additional 230 flights, they must be all the ones eliminated from Pittsburgh.....With the rule 240's upcomming with the bad weather season, Pittsburgh will be sorely missed as a saftey valve....

With all the furlough's, are they gonna add additional personal or callback personnel laid off, to handle an additional 230 flights?

Where is gonna be all the extra traffic in February?

Other than the usual Carribeean destinations, the Ft Lauderdale, Tampa, Orlando vacationers only want a ticket if they can get it for $49.00 each way, or use their frequent flyer miles for a free ticket...

Adios.
 
The sad thing is that if this company had done something like this last Feb, or the one before, we probably wouldn't be back in BK. Now, it's probably too late - my guess is we won't make it to Feb.

Jim
 
Now that a positive attitude Jim, is there anything good happening? Was FLL a bad deal too? Maybe we should just shut it down now Jim.

BoeingBoy said:
The sad thing is that if this company had done something like this last Feb, or the one before, we probably wouldn't be back in BK. Now, it's probably too late - my guess is we won't make it to Feb.

Jim
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UseYourHead said:
Now that a positive attitude Jim, is there anything good happening? Was FLL a bad deal too? Maybe we should just shut it down now Jim.
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UYH,

Is there anything good happening (note present tense) - no.

Was FLL a bad deal too (note past tense) - since it hasn't happened, who knows. Will we last long enough for it to happen - my opinion is no, but's that's only one opinion.

Maybe we should just shut it down now - seems management is doing a pretty good job accomplishing that all by themselves.

Jim
 
Useyourhead...you'll learn that Jim NEVVVVVER has anything good to say no matter what. He doesn't want to admit the industry is changing by the day. Jim, nothing is the same as it was yesterday. If you browse through his post, thay are all negative. If you stay around negative people your more apt to become one to. All carriers are in the same boat...maybe blame the administartion for maybe not price regulating and letting everyone undercut the break even point. Not to memtion the price of fuel. It's changed Jim...maybe if you don't like it or have nothing HALF good to say...maybe move on the a greener pasture and let the rest of us her to try to support our families with whatever we can make. In alot of cases it's better off staying and making do rather then going somewhere else and starting over. It always looks greener on the other side. Jim...try to say something once positive. I think it's treat we'er adding flights...you make some negative comment. If we reduced flights...you'd complain. What makes you happy. It's changed Jim...get over it!!! MHO!!

So useyourhead...take in for what he's worth!!
 
Who the hell wants to sit for 2 even 3 hrs. between legs. People cry when they have a 3 hour layover and still bitchin when they want a quick turn. Since when do sitting planes or sitting crews make money? Believe me, not a fan of management by any means. Anyone with a brain in their head and not in their a$$ knows this.
 
Flufdriver,

No problem from me with any of that. You have your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it.

Jim
 

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