A & P mechanics are SKILLED labor1

[BeenThereDoneThat]

Most A&Ps had to attend a school for about 2 years in order to take the FAA exams. That equates to the time required to earn an Associate Degree. A lot more A&Ps have their Bachelor degree or higher. So why do we allow the Department of Labor to call us "UNSKILLED" labor. There should be enough of us to force a change in the definition.

 

[INSP17]

I AGREE WITH YOU BUT THIS FIGHT HAS BEEN ON GOING FOR YEARS NOW, WE GOT PLACED IN THE "UNSKILLED" WHILE YOUR FRIENDLY MR. GOODWRENCH GETS CLASSIFIED AS "SKILLED"

BIG DIFFERENCE IN YOUR CHEVY BREAKING AT THE CORNER OF CENTRAL AND VAN BUREN AND PULLING TO THE CURB, AS OPPOSED TO HAVE A ENGINE PROBLEM AT 39.000 FT.

 

[delldude]

you know,IAM represents lots of auto mechs.....why couldn't they lobby to have the definition changed? :blink:

 

[BeenThereDoneThat]

you know,IAM represents lots of auto mechs.....why couldn't they lobby to have the definition changed? :blink:

They could. Many of them have attended trade schools also the days of the shade tree mechanic are pretty much over. Heck, most of them have better pay and benefits than we do, I'd call that skilled. Now if we could only get DOT to make them have certificates :blink: like we do--hmmmm!

 

[awausairtech]

It only takes a small test to be a auto mech and you have your certification.
And if you fail it you can take it again the next week till you pass.
Look mom no school! LOL

 

[BeenThereDoneThat]

It only takes a small test to be a auto mech and you have your certification.
And if you fail it you can take it again the next week till you pass.
Look mom no school! LOL

Look at some of the idiots we work with everynight that are well schooled and have no common sense or mechanical abilities what-so-ever. As far as passing the test, you can take the A&P exams over if you fail and few examiners have failed anyone on the practical portions. So I'd have to disagree with your stance on this one.

 

[awausairtech]

Look at some of the idiots we work with everynight that are well schooled and have no common sense or mechanical abilities what-so-ever. As far as passing the test, you can take the A&P exams over if you fail and few examiners have failed anyone on the practical portions. So I'd have to disagree with your stance on this one.

At-least they went to school and not shade tree techs.
Even a lav dumper or bag man can go get a gse license any time he/she wants.

 

[BeenThereDoneThat]

Many do have some pretty heavy duty industry sponsored certifications up and running now. The requirements are as stringent as anything aviation can dig up.

Industry sponsored programs are becoming the norm. The drawback being in most case once you're certified that's it, no follow on or oversight that could cost you your job, which IMO makes that kind of set up WRONG for aviation.

And your point is what? That aviation industry DOES HAVE some kind of follow on or oversight that could cost you your job? Unless you severely ding an aircraft, cause an injury or fail the drug/alcohol test very few people really have to worry about their jobs as long as they show up for work.

I agree with you that set up is: WRONG.

 

[awausairtech]

common sense does not apply to aviation any more LOL!

 

[awausairtech]

Now I will go back to UNIONS, They get DUES!!! And let shirttails on the A/P mech's certification so why would they not support the A/P mech's to go SKILLED????? EASY we bring up UNSKILLED LOBOR FOR HIGHER DUES!

COMMON SENSE!

LOOK AT HOW LONG THE IAM HAS TRIED TO GET THE BAGBOYS IN OUR UNIONS CBA!
NOTE🙁OUR UNION IAM CBA.)

And if you need prof i can show you or just ask DELL OR 700uw for that info they have been IAM Brothers longer that me.

PLZ don't take this wrong we are all union brothers but you don't pay the paperboy what you pay the plumber!

 

[BeenThereDoneThat]

common sense does not apply to aviation any more LOL!

But, WE ARE SKILLED LABOR!

 

[awausairtech]

But, WE ARE SKILLED LABOR!

I did a mod on my post go back and read LOL


WE A/P's ARE SKILLED LABOR!

 

[757fixer]

Most A&Ps had to attend a school for about 2 years in order to take the FAA exams. That equates to the time required to earn an Associate Degree. A lot more A&Ps have their Bachelor degree or higher. So why do we allow the Department of Labor to call us "UNSKILLED" labor. There should be enough of us to force a change in the definition.

Actually the 1900 hours that the FAA required us to go to school puts us beyond the Bachelor's Degree level. The average Bachelor's Degree takes about 1400 hours to earn.And you get to do it over 4 years.

 

[local 12 proud]

But, WE ARE SKILLED LABOR!

I agree, we recieve a skill premium, yet are classified as un-skilled... :huh:

 

[awausairtech]

I agree, we recieve a skill premium, yet are classified as un-skilled... :huh:

I get it (skill premium) NOT A SKILLED PREMIUM At ALL OF US!!!!