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New here, I have been following your thread. I work for the big D. The same issues have been going through our maintenance department too.

Has any of your AMTs been "released" either temporarily or permanantly? We are having "in house" interviews with the AMTs that inspected and reworked the A/C on the 27th to see if they followed the AD to the letter.

Several have been temprorarily suspended. Our paperwork has change several times already, and the latest issue came up after a new inspector found the exsisting clip that the snap tube attaches to at the lower end is drawn upside down in the Fig. This went all the way to Boeing to get it figured out.

Very Concerned here how this is being handled.
 
New here, I have been following your thread. I work for the big D. The same issues have been going through our maintenance department too.

Has any of your AMTs been "released" either temporarily or permanantly? We are having "in house" interviews with the AMTs that inspected and reworked the A/C on the 27th to see if they followed the AD to the letter.

Several have been temprorarily suspended. Our paperwork has change several times already, and the latest issue came up after a new inspector found the exsisting clip that the snap tube attaches to at the lower end is drawn upside down in the Fig. This went all the way to Boeing to get it figured out.

Very Concerned here how this is being handled.

No Mechanics being suspended at AA over this FAA fiasco, besides 'Ourpay' has taken full responsibility!!!! :up:

Call your Union Hall....oooops, better scratch that!

Get yourself an Attorney! :unsure:
 
No Mechanics being suspended at AA over this FAA fiasco, besides 'Ourpay' has taken full responsibility!!!! :up:

Call your Union Hall....oooops, better scratch that!

Get yourself an Attorney! :unsure:
Hard to hire a decent attorney when your unemployed.
 
New here, I have been following your thread. I work for the big D. The same issues have been going through our maintenance department too.

Has any of your AMTs been "released" either temporarily or permanantly? We are having "in house" interviews with the AMTs that inspected and reworked the A/C on the 27th to see if they followed the AD to the letter.

Several have been temprorarily suspended. Our paperwork has change several times already, and the latest issue came up after a new inspector found the exsisting clip that the snap tube attaches to at the lower end is drawn upside down in the Fig. This went all the way to Boeing to get it figured out.

Very Concerned here how this is being handled.

Trying to comply with this AD is like trying to step on a roach on the kitchen floor in the morning. The target is constantly moving and changing directions. NO AMT's should be suspended or fired over this poorly written and drawn modification. If they are, they need to definitely get a lawyer and sue for reinstatement,lost wages etc.

How come the engineers that wrote this garbage still have a job?
 
Trying to comply with this AD is like trying to step on a roach on the kitchen floor in the morning. The target is constantly moving and changing directions. NO AMT's should be suspended or fired over this poorly written and drawn modification. If they are, they need to definitely get a lawyer and sue for reinstatement,lost wages etc.

How come the engineers that wrote this garbage still have a job?


Good question.

We have a minority group working "live" aircraft that have long pushed for a union. I did not come here to push that issue around, just inquiring into how your maintenance management has been treating your AMTs with this issue after they may have worked an A/C and it was looked at someone else that interpeted the AD differently.

This hole deal may reinforce pushing more AMTs at Delta into signing a card. We seem to have too many working in back shops that are comfortable and don't have to deal with these types of concerns that won't sign a card. This fiasco may be enough to change that, we will see.

So far everyone given time off has been dealt with in house, which is better than a pulled certificate.
I will keep you all updated as the week progressess.

Thanks. Keep up the good work.
 
, there's no money out of AA's pocket, and I'm still booking a refundable fare because schedules change and I'd rather not be dealing with restricted inventories and change fees.

Yes, it's that simple.

Exactly, so the real losses wont be that bad. AA gets to claim every scheduled seat that wasnt flown as a loss, even though many will simply be filled at a later date, in the meantime they just reduced capacity and saved tons of fuel and continued to fly their most profitable routes.
 
New here, I have been following your thread. I work for the big D. The same issues have been going through our maintenance department too.

Has any of your AMTs been "released" either temporarily or permanantly? We are having "in house" interviews with the AMTs that inspected and reworked the A/C on the 27th to see if they followed the AD to the letter.

Several have been temprorarily suspended. Our paperwork has change several times already, and the latest issue came up after a new inspector found the exsisting clip that the snap tube attaches to at the lower end is drawn upside down in the Fig. This went all the way to Boeing to get it figured out.

Very Concerned here how this is being handled.
Suspended with pay right? Been there before-10 days, an unplanned vacation and I made the most of it. :up: There is no way that any mechs are going to get burnt over this so dont worry. Nobody got hurt, hell there havent even been any "incidents". Too much has been made of this already and the fact that they cant even get the paperwork right works in the accused's favor. If they cant even figure out how they want it done how can they accuse a mechanic of doing it wrong?
 
Good question.

We have a minority group working "live" aircraft that have long pushed for a union. I did not come here to push that issue around, just inquiring into how your maintenance management has been treating your AMTs with this issue after they may have worked an A/C and it was looked at someone else that interpeted the AD differently.

This hole deal may reinforce pushing more AMTs at Delta into signing a card. We seem to have too many working in back shops that are comfortable and don't have to deal with these types of concerns that won't sign a card. This fiasco may be enough to change that, we will see.

So far everyone given time off has been dealt with in house, which is better than a pulled certificate.
I will keep you all updated as the week progressess.

Thanks. Keep up the good work.
Well according to the latest news releases you may be buying NWA, then you will be having a vote!

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/04/13/...?partner=alerts
 
People say the lost all that money...revenue, vouchers, etc....but how much money did aa save by not flying...fuel, employee pay, landing fees...????
 
People say the lost all that money...revenue, vouchers, etc....but how much money did aa save by not flying...fuel, employee pay, landing fees...????

Not that much on employee pay. F/As (and I am assuming pilots as well) are pay protected up to guarantee; so, only high time flyers lost money, and they can go on make-up to recoup the time. Lord knows mechanics and airport agents were on almost unlimited overtime. 🙄
 
Original paperwork said sensor wire must be out of sleeving for entire run,Revision said in or out. Also must be tied with a #5 knot instead of the #1 knot normally used. And yes knots were disected at Delta to give people time off (without pay).
 
Wonder how many were done with zip-ties, and skipped the whole knot BS ? And did or did-not meet the intent of the EO?
 
Everyone knows you can't use TY-WRAPS (zip ties) in a fuel vapor area (unpressurised).
 
Sorry to jump in late,but there are some issues that haven't been brought up.First an AD is different from most FAA regs in that it is a FEDERAL LAW.SWA seems to think that $10 mil is excessive,I believe the standard fine for non compliance of an AD is $10,000 PER FLIGHT.The FAA office is trying to show Washington" see,we're not in bed with AA"
 

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