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AA to charge for most* checked bags

I really don't think the charging for the first bag will stick. First it will really piss off the customer that already has a flight booked and second the carry on situation will get very unmanagable. Most luggage belongs in the cargo hold. Moves like this are just plain stupid.
 
Flights already booked and booked through June 14th don't have the new policy; it becomes effective with tickets purchased on or after June 15th.
 
It is going to get ugly in the cabin everyone will start bringing carry-ons instead of paying to check the bag.
 
As a F/A, should I just slit my wrists now, or wait? :lol: You are all correct. They are going to try to bring everything on. Because they think that if it won't fit, we will gate check it and it will be on the jetbridge for them at their destination.

We issue regular bag checks on the jetbridge. I'm guessing the charge will still apply whether checked curbside or on the jetbridge.
 
I was going to say the same thing ... The flight crew, agents and ramp suffer so they aren't charged with that 6 minute delay, when the passengers who realize they didn't need that big rollaboard in the cabin, will decide they do now. And like jim said, all they have to do is take a chance to avoid the fees, and then check it at the gate 5 minutes before departure after frantically searching and then come to the conclusion, there is no space left. Then how do you charge the ones brought up at the last minute and how do they determine which ones are the 15.00 bags or 25.00 bags? Seriously, I wouldn't blame them for trying. We're doing that now on full flights, especially the transcons that don't have the extended overhead bins where I see more bag problems than not. If anything, there should be some incentive to NOT bring that rollaboard into the passenger cabin if it's not needed inflight. I was already nervous about charging them for the 2nd bag, but now ANY bag? No one should be charged with a delay during this testing period due to bags, unless the ones who thought of this idea want to accept the responsiblity themselves. I don't need to be met at the downline gate by an MOD or supervisor asking why we were charged with a delay.
 
I really don't think the charging for the first bag will stick. First it will really piss off the customer that already has a flight booked and second the carry on situation will get very unmanagable. Most luggage belongs in the cargo hold. Moves like this are just plain stupid.
Did'nt all the so-called aviation airline expert types say the same thing about the second bag charge? Now they are all doing it. Just my thoughts.
 
It just occurred to me that what we SHOULD be doing is charging $25 to bring a 2nd bag on board. Whether that is the backpack (big enough to hold a 6-person tent and a camp stove) that you are calling your "small personal item", or if you must have your computer on board then your rollaboard gets charged for. And, purses will still count. You get to choose which one is charged for or checked.

We had a woman get on recently that had a rollaboard, a big open tote (her purse), and a full-size computer bag precariously balanced in the top of the tote. She should never have been allowed down the jetbridge. She started to have a fit when I told her we would have to check her rollaboard because she had too many bags. I calmly informed her that her other choice was to keep all of her bags with her, but not go at all. She decided the rollaboard could be checked. :lol:
 
From a Notice emailed to AA folks today:

AMERICAN RESPONDING TO NEW INDUSTRY REALITIES


AMR today announced significant reductions to its 2008 domestic flight schedule, including a fourth quarter domestic mainline capacity reduction of 11 to 12 percent from the previous year, outlined plans to retire at least 75 mainline and regional aircraft, and unveiled several revenue growth initiatives, as the company responds to record fuel prices, growing concerns about the economy and a difficult competitive environment.

"The airline industry as it is constituted today was not built to withstand oil prices at $125 a barrel, and certainly not when record fuel expenses are coupled with a weak U.S. economy," said CEO Gerard Arpey. "Our company and industry simply cannot afford to sit by hoping for industry and market conditions to improve. We must work to overcome our near-term challenges and to secure our company's long-term future for the benefit of our stockholders, customers and employees. We must find ways to cover the cost of providing our services so that we can remain viable and have the resources to reinvest in our company for the future. Those goals are central to the actions we are outlining today."

The capacity reductions aim to significantly reduce costs as well as create a more sustainable supply-and-demand balance in the market. In recent years, Arpey added, the industry has been hurt by some airlines growing faster than conditions warranted, and that impact has worsened in light of recent economic trends and soaring fuel prices.

American also expects to retire at least 75 mainline and regional aircraft: 40 to 45 mainline aircraft, primarily MD-80s and some A-300s, and 35 to 40 regional jets and some number of turbo-props.

The changes will result in workforce reductions at both American and American Eagle, and could result in facility closures or facility consolidation. Employee reductions are dependent on scheduling and budgeting decisions that have not yet been made. It will take approximately 4-6 weeks to determine the specific schedule adjustments and the resulting effect on employees. Additional information will be shared with employees as it becomes available.

Arpey said this is obviously news no one wants to hear. But facing the reality of today's market and extraordinarily high fuel costs, these steps are necessary. "That said, we are always going to do our best by our people," he continued, "which means we have to remain competitive to protect everyone's long-term future."

"I believe that if we continue to confront our challenges directly, particularly in this difficult economic environment," said Arpey, "we can continue to strengthen our company and position it for long-term success. We must all remain mindful of the fact that only a strong company can provide the job security and brighter future we all want." Because if AMR is not competitive, he added, then "we're really not protecting anybody's interest in the long run. In fact, we as a company would be jeopardizing the long-term future of employees and their retirement."

As evidence of the crisis caused by soaring fuel prices, Arpey cited the U.S. airline industry's first quarter 2008 pre-tax loss of nearly $2 billion and the fact that eight U.S. airlines have filed for bankruptcy protection this year, including five that have ceased service. AMR paid $665 million more for fuel in the first quarter than it would have paid at prices one year ago. The price of jet fuel has increased by more than 10 percent since April 16, when AMR expected its 2008 fuel bill would be well over $6 billion higher than in 2003.

Beyond the Company's ongoing efforts to contain and reduce costs, Arpey noted that AMR has consistently sought revenue improvements through fare increases and fuel surcharges. Since mid-April, American has participated in or led 15 fare increases, 14 of which were at least partially successful. In addition, American continues to look for ways to generate additional revenue by charging fees for certain services.

Today, American introduced a $15 fee for the first checked bag, given the increasing costs of transporting checked baggage. This fee, which is effective for tickets purchased on or after June 15, does not apply to: American's AAdvantage Gold, AAdvantage Platinum and AAdvantage Executive Platinum level members; those who have purchased full-fare tickets in the Economy, Business and First Class cabins; and those with international itineraries (except to and from Canada and U.S. territories, such as Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands).

American is also increasing its fees for certain other services, ranging from reservation service fees to pet and oversized bag fees. The increases mostly range from $5 to $50 per service.

The new and increased fees announced this month are expected to generate several hundred million dollars in incremental annual revenue.

"While we understand that these fees affect customers, we also believe that our pricing for the services we provide remains extremely competitive in the industry and continues to offer our customers ample choice and value," Arpey said. "The bottom line is that our revenues, which include ticket sales and fees, must keep pace with our increasing costs."

Arpey also noted that AMR has made much progress in recent years to better prepare it for the current uncertainty. As a result of efforts to strengthen the balance sheet, reduce and refinance debt, and build cash reserves, the company is in far better shape to endure these challenges compared to a few years ago. "Clearly, we have a lot of hard work ahead of us given the economic realities we face," Arpey said. "But we have battled through many challenges throughout our long history, and, with the continued dedication of our leadership team and our people, I believe we have the fortitude to continue to do so."
 
I knew it was just a matter of time before they came right out and said "workforce reductions". The only speculation left right now is how much of a reduction. If they are planning up to 12% capacity reduction, that could easily equate to a 20-25% reduction in employees as well.

AA was never concerned with contract negotiations - this Ace has been up Arpey's sleeve for some time.
 
Don Burr was 20 years ahead of his time with People Express's unbundled product... We used to charge $3 a bag if I recall, and people paid it without complaining because they knew their flight was so damn cheap to begin with...

So I see it sticking. AA doesn't need anymore customers than they already have with load factors where they are -- they need to get more money per customer. As long as the ones who get pssed off about the charges stay in check with the frequency reductions, it stands to be a net gain, and I don't see a dropoff of 10% just from bag fees, especially when you factor in the top tiers and other exceptions.

Only thing I don't see is anything about refunds when the bag is lost or delayed....
 
I agree with eolesen. What AA really needs to do is to fire its least profitable customers, and if paying for what they use (like heavy checked bags) causes them to flee - then GOOD.

As everyone realizes, revenue MUST increase in a huge way if AA is to survive. And revenue must increase in a huge way if labor is to have any chance of recovering what it gave up in 2003.
 
The recent change by American to start charging for checked luggage has got to be one of the biggest blunders and bonehead moves since Coke changed to New Coke. The stock is already off 20%.

With the TSA/FAA requiring liquids more than 3 ounces be checked this boarders on a discriminatory to women who typically will carry more liquids. Nowhere did I see any statement of American expanding the in cabin bins to accommodate the increase baggage on board. So we all get to spend more time trying to leave on time when there is not enough bin space already.

Did Arpey and Garton wake up this morning and say 'how can we really put this airline in the ground?'. A first year MBA student could find better savings in the way the AMR business is ran.

Faithful customers put up with American's questionable maintenence practices in March and April only to get this forced on them. I don't think American wants the same respect.

I agree I don't think it will stick. Unfortunately it will probably take 3-6 months for the stock to recover.
 
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