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Easy...how did you pay for your ticket...it's in the computer..LOL!
AA to charge for most* checked bags
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Easy...how did you pay for your ticket...it's in the computer..LOL!
leveralone
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It is funny how AA offered the TWU a time sensitive proposal and then after it got turned down AA came out with these crazy bag fees. I have a feeling AA wants to blame the reason for these fees on having to restructure it's proposals with it's unions. Then the American Public will side with AA over the working man.
Wow. 900.00 is an average domestic round trip that you've been paying on a cheaper, restricted fare? Out of curiousity, what route charged that ...and if it's an average, you've had 1000.00 roundtrips in there somewhere? Obviously you know full fare flights passengers don't fall under the bag policy, so I'm just curious as to which mid country routes actually charge that on a restricted fare since I used to be in res, when tickets were higher, and rarely quoted that much.
The following customers will not be charged a service fee to check a bag provided the bag is within the weight allowance:
For the first checked bag, customers who buy a ticket before June 15, 2008, or who fly before June 15, 2008
For the second checked bag, customers who purchased a ticket before May 12, 2008
Customers traveling on an international itinerary to destinations beyond the U.S., the U.S. Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, or Canada
Customers who purchase full-fare tickets in Economy Class
Customers who purchase Business or First Class tickets
Customers flying on AA codeshare flights not operated by American Airlines, American Eagle or AmericanConnection®
Customers traveling on government or military fares
Military passengers on active duty
AAdvantage Executive Platinum®, AAdvantage Platinum® or AAdvantage Gold® members
oneworld Alliance Emerald, Sapphire or Ruby members
Customers flying on the same reservation as an AAdvantage Executive Platinum, AAdvantage Platinum or AAdvantage Gold member or oneworld Alliance Emerald, Sapphire or Ruby member regardless of frequent flier status or fare type (not applicable to group bookings)
AAnytime® Economy Class AAdvantage award tickets, MileSAAver(SM) or AAnytime First and
Business Class AAdvantage award tickets
First and Business Class upgrades confirmed prior to check in
AAirpass travel
Don't know about that. I think what this fee does is offer a wake up call to the flying public that planes don't fly for free and to stop bringing everything but the kitchen sink with them when they travel.
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That's the majority of our passengers. I guess they will not be making much money on this deal.
Doesn't look like it. If anything, they may lose with the bad publicity and if no other airlines follow along. The 2nd bag charge wasn't near as bad (even if it's more) as not being able to check even one bag for free. Many complainers who say they're not going to fly AA because of this don't even know they're exempt.
As far as charging for the bags. I worked a flight tonight to GRU. I stood in the mid galley and watch these people stuff the bag bins full. The one thing a bet AA has not thought of is the massive delays they are going to take. What delay code are they going to use for there critical departures when the jet bridge is full of gate checked bags.What sad about this idea is they pay these VP's, six to seven figure income to come up with these stupid idea's . No wonder this airline is in the position.
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If AA were smart they would raise the fee for the second checked bag to $50 and forget about charging for the first bag. They should also do this across the board for all passengers and not omit the flying elite. Those that are convinced that they have to bring everything they own when they travel will either learn to scale back or have to fork over the cash for their excessiveness.
I was just mentioning that earlier. Charge more for the 2nd bag and/or for a cabin rollaboard of a certain size. Not many need to travel with more than two suitcases and a tote unless they're staying for an extended length of time (like more than a month). In that case, they should use UPS for their extra stuff or pay more to check it. Also because of the liquid restrictions, some people don't have a choice but to check even if it's a miniscule tote. I really don't mind exempting a some people. If they're paying full fare in first class, business or coach (300.00-3000.00 each way), international or airpass, then they shouldn't have to pay. Re EP and PL, most of them are loyal passengers who bring millions of miles of business to AA, and who don't window shop or proclaim to drop AA on a dime over things like not serving little bags of pretzels anymore. I don't see them as elitest, but loyal customers, just like discounts I earn when I buy alot from a vendor. They usually know how to travel anyway.
It just occurred to me that what we SHOULD be doing is charging $25 to bring a 2nd bag on board. Whether that is the backpack (big enough to hold a 6-person tent and a camp stove) that you are calling your "small personal item", or if you must have your computer on board then your rollaboard gets charged for. And, purses will still count. You get to choose which one is charged for or checked.
We had a woman get on recently that had a rollaboard, a big open tote (her purse), and a full-size computer bag precariously balanced in the top of the tote. She should never have been allowed down the jetbridge. She started to have a fit when I told her we would have to check her rollaboard because she had too many bags. I calmly informed her that her other choice was to keep all of her bags with her, but not go at all. She decided the rollaboard could be checked.
Jim, one of the biggest abusers I have seen lately are the flight attendents. Rollerboard, purse, lunch, overseas shopping, items to sell in the states from Peru etc.
Your assuming the fired customer is being replace with a full fare. The full fare customer is not there. If they were AA would have sold them a ticket and bumped the cheap fare
Just give the agents an OSR. They can accept cash, credit and debit. Plus have the ability to give a reciept. If the wheelchair people can have a similar machine, so can agents. I think agents in some cities have portable check in machines and bag tag printers they wear on their belts, maybe those could do the same thing. In the end, no bag fee is worth its' salt unless you enforce it at the gate. Also, why is PAP and select other cities exempt?
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What sad about this idea is they pay these VP's, six to seven figure income to come up with these stupid idea's . No wonder this airline is in the position.
I'm sure we'd all love to hear your brilliant ideas to fix the airline and the industry so please, share away.
Only one rule: you can't use the "just raise fares!" argument because it's not a viable solution. AA is clearly raising fares where feasible (matched UA's fare hike today) but can't just implement a 30% systemwide fare hike.
And since I'm obviously a hired consultant I'll bring your ideas straight to Gerard. <_<
Here is the mgnt ploy. Come out with the charge every bag plan. Tell the ramp union sorry for the lay off but you know there'll be a lot less baggage now. This puts the sewat on fleet service to save jobs and accept a lousy contract for job security. Either way Gerry wins on this one. He cuts the ramp workforce or gets away with a low cost contract. After Gerry gets clerks in line, he'll throw out the "charge for every bag" fiasco and make the rampers work twice as hard because AA will be slow to bring lay-offs back.
