Ala Carte Bevs

[Furloughd4now]

Oh I really hope bevg charges are eliminated (I know I've said it already)

Along those lines, I believe (or at least hope upon hope ;-) they've figured out that the cost (of HHD) of operations far exceeded the operating expenses involved, plus the fee to GuestLogix (whom I can assure is NOT giving them away for free). It's not that I mind using the HHD, but please people give us something that WORKS!

I like that list that Piney offered ... Makes sense, like noted above ... , that's what others do and makes a truly competitive offering that will help ease our complaint barrier. I mean we really need that BAD.... In addition, I really hope that we are serious about "some sort" of IFE down the road ... Please people, let's get this right and we can really make out! 🙄 Our current customer base is really scaring me

Also, I thought that the catering company takes the money for the BOB meals (IOW, its their operation and they take the revenue)? If that's the case, why are the FAs responsible for depositing it along with our money? Just curious.

I have always had to do opening iventory prior to selling. If there is another way plueeze PM me

 

[PHLfa88]

Come On People!! People DONOT buy a ticket on an airline based on getting a FREE Glass of Soda! They do for the ticket price!! IMO the company says they are generating $400,000-500,000 MILLION per year for the Ala Carte Pricing!! It's Not going anywhere!!

 

[LCC_#1]

On my very first flight today, the caterer told me they had received the memo that we will no longer charge for non alcoholic bevs in March. I did not solicite this info. He just came right out and told me.

 

[UPNAWAY]

Are the FAs that always complain on here the same ones that are stuffing magazines and water bottles in the Aft Lavs all the time?

 

[SpinDoc]

The fact that no other major carrier followed US in their decision to "sell" beverages leaves you anti-competitive. I couldn't possibly care any less but the selling of beverages is NOT "in line" with your competition. I wouldn't book away from US simply because soda was $2.00 but it wouldn't draw me to you either.

On a recent Transcon flight, I personally witnessed fairly robust sales of both soft drinks and alcoholic beverages. I have to admit, prior to this flight, I was unsure that beverage sales were providing any meaningful contribution to the bottom line, but after observing, I am convinced the idea works. And despite the detractors on this site, customers were not complaining (shock) that they had to buy a $2 water or Coke, or spend a ridiculously high $7 for a beer or cocktail.

 

[YVINTERN]

Thats because they were so ghastly aback already 😉

 

[ClueByFour]

On a recent Transcon flight, I personally witnessed fairly robust sales of both soft drinks and alcoholic beverages. I have to admit, prior to this flight, I was unsure that beverage sales were providing any meaningful contribution to the bottom line, but after observing, I am convinced the idea works. And despite the detractors on this site, customers were not complaining (shock) that they had to buy a $2 water or Coke, or spend a ridiculously high $7 for a beer or cocktail.

On a recent conference call for heavy travelers, I watched the travel manager for a Fortune 250 tell people not to fly US absent any other possible way to get from point A to point B or unless the cost was significantly cheaper (>$250 OW) than other airlines because the "ancillary charges make it an unwelcome proposition).

Figure it out. I don't think Tempe is offering double EQMs because the VFFs are staying in droves. If they want the kettles, so be it.

 

[aredeeyou22]

On a recent conference call for heavy travelers, I watched the travel manager for a Fortune 250 tell people not to fly US absent any other possible way to get from point A to point B or unless the cost was significantly cheaper (>$250 OW) than other airlines because the "ancillary charges make it an unwelcome proposition).

Figure it out. I don't think Tempe is offering double EQMs because the VFFs are staying in droves. If they want the kettles, so be it.

I'm curious. Did this "Fortune 250" travel manager tell "people" to stay away from CO as well, or was it simply a $2 soda that he/she found so offensive?



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Continental-...s-14229804.html

How is CO's revenue falling, what with all the new high fare revenue they have received from US in the last year? Surely their numbers should be busting through the roof with free food in Y, a free soder, and a hub in one of the largest O&D markets in the universe?

 

[BoeingBoy]

How is CO's revenue falling, what with all the new high fare revenue they have received from US in the last year?

Do you mean CO's 5.7% increase in passenger revenue vs US's 0.6% increase for 2008. Or maybe CO's 2.8% decrease in passenger revenue vs US' 4.4% decline for the 4th quarter?

Jim

 

[aredeeyou22]

Do you mean CO's 5.7% increase in passenger revenue vs US's 0.6% increase for 2008. Or maybe CO's 2.8% decrease in passenger revenue vs US' 4.4% decline for the 4th quarter?

Jim

From the above quoted article:

"For January 2009, consolidated passenger revenue per available seat mile (RASM) is estimated to have decreased between 5.0 and 6.0 percent compared to January 2008, while mainline passenger RASM is estimated to have decreased between 3.5 and 4.5 percent compared to January 2008."

Not saying that US is not experiencing the same drops (or worse), just wondering how it is that revenue is falling at CO as well in January, especially with the onslaught of so many high fare paying pax from US over the past few years? Shouldn't CO be so much stronger than US with a NYC O&D base as well?

 

[aredeeyou22]

"Hello Bob, Shanese in accounting, that $15.00 US Airways receipt was that for baggage or an aisle seat I need to know which budget center to apply it to! Call me back thanks"

How many messages do you think Shanese is going to leave like that before she get's in someones face about wasted time? How long is the corporate travel manager going to put up with calls from Shanese's manager before he blows a gasket?

Why is Bob, a big corporate exec, being charged for baggage, or an aisle seat, if he is an elite? Or is it the $2 soder receipt that is confusing Shanese?

 

[aredeeyou22]

If you have a company that bought airline tickets for a total of 300 people less than half have "Status" and the rest don't have much more of a clue then the average "kettle".

Ok. Now, would you consider these 300 worker bees without status "kettles", or are they in a different class since they are not traveling for leisure, but act the same way? Hmm. We need a new category.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Not saying that US is not experiencing the same drops (or worse), just wondering how it is that revenue is falling at CO as well in January, especially with the onslaught of so many high fare paying pax from US over the past few years? Shouldn't CO be so much stronger than US with a NYC O&D base as well?

Geez - I don't know. Reckon the global economic situation might have something to do with it?

You keep talking about revenue but the article you linked and even quoted a portion of says nothing about revenue. Perhaps you're confused. However, if you'd care to take a look at 4th quarter profits (loses) you'll see that CO performed better than US. Maybe those high yield FF's leaving US for greener pastures have something to do with that.

Jim

 

[aredeeyou22]

Geez - I don't know. Reckon the global economic situation might have something to do with it?

You keep talking about revenue but the article you linked and even quoted a portion of says nothing about revenue. Perhaps you're confused. However, if you'd care to take a look at 4th quarter profits (loses) you'll see that CO performed better than US. Maybe those high yield FF's leaving US for greener pastures have something to do with that.

Jim

Ahhh... The economy.....

I was just looking at the article comparing CO's performance (RASM) from 1/2009 as opposed to 1/2008. Am I confused in understanding that 1/09 was worse than 1/08?

Also, do you believe that CO's position as a leader in the NYC market has something to do with better revenue performance, as opposed to being a market leader in CLT, PHL or PHX? How much do the strong O&D markets affect or hurt revenue when comparing airlines?

 

[FWAAA]

How is CO's revenue falling, what with all the new high fare revenue they have received from US in the last year? Surely their numbers should be busting through the roof with free food in Y, a free soder, and a hub in one of the largest O&D markets in the universe?

CO's yield and RASM has been increasing at a higher rate than US' unit revenue for at least eight consecutive quarters. Those higher fare payors jumped ship a long time ago to CO (and other airlines).

US has lagged the industry in unit revenue improvements for eight consecutive quarters. Proof that US has been unable to attract or retain people willing to pay higher fares.

Of course CO's revenue is falling now. The point is, it's starting from a much stronger position. Unit revenue will probably fall at a higher rate at US.