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AMR Bankruptcy Update: Docket # 3084 Debtors [proposed] Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law

The document mentions how USAir has gone through 2 bankruptcies and went to labor FOUR times for concessions. Is that really better?

It's quite laughable, the law require full disclosure about how many bankruptcies and such a ill conceived company like HP has in the past. The sad part is that there are no caps, they can do this a ten times and screw over thousands of workers in the process again and again. Both companies the screwer and the screwee with their respective legal firms predend to fight on and on to the tune of $1000/ hr per lawyer, and get their cut, win or lose. Millions are bilked from each company and deals are made to cover the officers ( management ) on both sides, so really there are no losers, except you know who, you.

You who in the end, gets the really good screwing, in the end.
 
No they dont have to freeze them before they can be terminated, Pilots, FAs, Maintenance and related we had our pensions terminated in chapter 11 at US, they were never frozen.

IAM r
 
No they dont have to freeze them before they can be terminated, Pilots, FAs, Maintenance and related we had our pensions terminated in chapter 11 at US, they were never frozen.

IAM representation at work! Clearly AA workers faired better than you as the pension is being frozen. While TWU and Jim Little may take credit for this it was all done by the PGBC. Not really fair to AA but that's neither here nor now on this forum....

Josh
 
Are you that ignorant?

ALPA, AFA, CWA, IAM and TWU all had our pensions terminated in chapter 11, there was nothing any union could do to stop that.

Its also happened to AMFA and the IBT.

WIth each post you get more uneducated.

All I can say is your hatred really clouds you learning the truth.
 
It's not an attack on the IAM or any of the after mentioned unions, just stating that representation didn't prevent the pensions from being terminated and other concessions imposed. How are your section 6 negotiations at US Airways working? Any success getting back what you gave up in three rounds of concessions?

Josh
 
See your lack of knowledge show once again, in the T/A at US they got back overhaul that 50% of mtc dollars must be spent in-house, got pay raises, holidays back, overtime increase, sick time increase and a defined benefit plan was put back in place.

Now the IAM is seeking improvements in all areas.

Once again you are failing to realize that US was in bankruptcy twice in less than two years and was obligated under the law to negotiate concessions or have them imposed.

And at AA, they were in Chapter 11 in 2003 when they gave concessions, same at CO with IBT and other unions.
 
See your lack of knowledge show once again, in the T/A at US they got back overhaul that 50% of mtc dollars must be spent in-house, got pay raises, holidays back, overtime increase, sick time increase and a defined benefit plan was put back in place.

Now the IAM is seeking improvements in all areas.

Once again you are failing to realize that US was in bankruptcy twice in less than two years and was obligated under the law to negotiate concessions or have them imposed.

And at AA, they were in Chapter 11 in 2003 when they gave concessions, same at CO with IBT and other unions.

False. AA threatened BK in 2003 to win over concessions from work groups, first ever bankruptcy filing for Ft. Worth, TX based AMR Corporation, the parent company of American Airlines was November 29, 2011

I'll ask again, who is showing their ignorance and spreading misinformation?

Josh
 
False?

Comprehension problems?

AA did not file Chapter 11 in 2003 and all unions on their property gave concessions.

Truth!

You make this way too easy!
 
False?

Comprehension problems?

AA did not file Chapter 11 in 2003 and all unions on their property gave concessions.

Truth!

You make this way too easy!
In post #52, above, you posted this:

700UW said:
And at AA, they were in Chapter 11 in 2003 when they gave concessions, same at CO with IBT and other unions.
From the looks of it, perhaps you made a typo?
 

700UW posted (mistakenly, I assume) that AA was in Ch 11 in 2003 when the concessions were imposed. Josh pounced on that, thinking that 700UW didn't know what he's talking about. 700UW then responded that Josh doesn't know what he's talking about. And I'm guessing that the last sentence in post #52 contains a typo - that 700UW meant to post that AA was NOT in Ch 11 in 2003.
 
Hmmmm, it would seem that most of you are normal.
 
700UW posted (mistakenly, I assume) that AA was in Ch 11 in 2003 when the concessions were imposed. Josh pounced on that, thinking that 700UW didn't know what he's talking about. 700UW then responded that Josh doesn't know what he's talking about. And I'm guessing that the last sentence in post #52 contains a typo - that 700UW meant to post that AA was NOT in Ch 11 in 2003.

I think he did it on purpose, because Josh fell for it.
 

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