Another YES vote needed. This time to dump the TWU

[Man of the People]

While Videtich stuffs his puss with chicken fried steak, we need to decide whether it will be Teamsters or AMFA that will release us from the Gulag. We need everyone on the same page. Ask yourself these questions:

• Who pays the most? UPS
• Who provides better name recognition and power? UPS
• Which union has the best opportunity to decertify the TWU? UPS
• Which union provides democracy to remove officers? AMFA

Remember this as well: Auto Shop and Facilities will not support AMFA. They will support Teamsters because they fear AMTs will sell Facilities down the drain. In a pursuit to get AMFA, know that roughly 2000 Title II will not sign cards. Better shot with getting them to sign Teamster cards.

Don't get clouded in a debate that splits the vote. This is what TWU wants. AMFA reps should get behind Teamsters, if for anything, to dump the TWU. If Teamsters cannot deliver, then Teamster backers should lay down and support AMFA takeover. This is logical. If we divide the house, TWU gets the last laugh. If we dump TWU, at least we send our message to TWU thanks for nothing.

We did not get in this to field to be broke. TWU has screwed the rest of the industry by using lemmings from 514 to scare people. Remember, Phat Don will tell you he did not have a vote. If we cannot agree on this, we are doomed.

We shamed the industry today. Watch the pilots and flight attendants and learn something.

 

[AA Mechanic]

What people are you exactly the man of?

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

The teamsters are a mirror image of the twu. Why replace one industrial, undemocratic, unaccountable union for another?

AMFA is the only choice for our craft.

 

[AA Mechanic]

Yeah, sure thing Ken.

 

[1AA]

Gonna be harder to do now unless a whole bunch of cards start showing up before the massive RIFs. If I voted NO and got rif'd I could care less about anything associated with AA, TWU or anything else in this industry. The company and the TWU just crapped on us. They both have shown that they have no respect for their employees and union members. I'm curious what the card count is today.

 

[jacfrost]

I will vote for the girl scouts, just get rid of TWU...........

 

[Tulsamechanic9]

Gonna be harder to do now unless a whole bunch of cards start showing up before the massive RIFs. If I voted NO and got rif'd I could care less about anything associated with AA, TWU or anything else in this industry. The company and the TWU just crapped on us. They both have shown that they have no respect for their employees and union members. I'm curious what the card count is today.

Exactly it's going to be much harder not to mention you don't have access to a laid off employee to talk him into signing a card.

 

[Tulsamechanic9]

Teamsters Can Negotiate Changes to Our New Contract​

There’s been a lot of talk about the vote yesterday on the new contract. And one thing that a lot A/A mechanics and related are saying is how glad they are that the Teamsters are here to help us organize.
The Teamsters have already expressed their commitment to using the Section 6 provision of the Railway Labor Act to reopen the existing contract.
That means the recently passed agreement under TWU can be reopened once the Teamsters become our bargaining representative.
Yesterday’s vote is yet another strong reason to become Teamsters.
American Airlines is required by law to open up the contract for a newly-certified union to negotiate changes. And the Teamsters have pledged to enforce that right if we choose the Teamsters to represent us at A/A.


Sign a Teamster card today before the Layoff.

 

[700UW]

Thats a blatant lie, changing unions doesnt trigger Section 6 negotiations. Section 6 negotiations only take place 60 days prior to the amendable date.

Lies spread by the IBT.

Newly certified means when a group who is non-union elects union representation.

 

[xUT]

Teamsters Can Negotiate Changes to Our New Contract​

There’s been a lot of talk about the vote yesterday on the new contract. And one thing that a lot A/A mechanics and related are saying is how glad they are that the Teamsters are here to help us organize.
The Teamsters have already expressed their commitment to using the Section 6 provision of the Railway Labor Act to reopen the existing contract.
That means the recently passed agreement under TWU can be reopened once the Teamsters become our bargaining representative.
Yesterday’s vote is yet another strong reason to become Teamsters.
American Airlines is required by law to open up the contract for a newly-certified union to negotiate changes. And the Teamsters have pledged to enforce that right if we choose the Teamsters to represent us at A/A.


Sign a Teamster card today before the Layoff.

700UW is correct.
This is the same "LIE" they told the UA M&R.
How did that work out?
IMHO, the ibt is the twu on steroids.
B) xUT

 

[riceweevil]

Teamsters Can Negotiate Changes to Our New Contract ​

There’s been a lot of talk about the vote yesterday on the new contract. And one thing that a lot A/A mechanics and related are saying is how glad they are that the Teamsters are here to help us organize.​

The Teamsters have already expressed their commitment to using the Section 6 provision of the Railway Labor Act to reopen the existing contract.​

That means the recently passed agreement under TWU can be reopened once the Teamsters become our bargaining representative.
Yesterday’s vote is yet another strong reason to become Teamsters.
American Airlines is required by law to open up the contract for a newly-certified union to negotiate changes. And the Teamsters have pledged to enforce that right if we choose the Teamsters to represent us at A/A.
Click here to read more about what a new union at A/A can do.
With the Teamsters, We Can Win at American Airlines!
For more information, call the campaign hotline at 877-589-4951 or visit www.teamster.org/aamx
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[xUT]

Teamsters Can Negotiate Changes to Our New Contract ​

There&rsquo;s been a lot of talk about the vote yesterday on the new contract. And one thing that a lot A/A mechanics and related are saying is how glad they are that the Teamsters are here to help us organize.​

The Teamsters have already expressed their commitment to using the Section 6 provision of the Railway Labor Act to reopen the existing contract.​

That means the recently passed agreement under TWU can be reopened once the Teamsters become our bargaining representative.
Yesterday&rsquo;s vote is yet another strong reason to become Teamsters.
American Airlines is required by law to open up the contract for a newly-certified union to negotiate changes. And the Teamsters have pledged to enforce that right if we choose the Teamsters to represent us at A/A.
Click here to read more about what a new union at A/A can do.
With the Teamsters, We Can Win at American Airlines!
For more information, call the campaign hotline at 877-589-4951 or visit www.teamster.org/aamx
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you guys deserve the ibt.
keep posting the same lie over and over with the hope it sticks.
B)

 

[1AA]

Teamsters Can Negotiate Changes to Our New Contract​

There&rsquo;s been a lot of talk about the vote yesterday on the new contract. And one thing that a lot A/A mechanics and related are saying is how glad they are that the Teamsters are here to help us organize.
The Teamsters have already expressed their commitment to using the Section 6 provision of the Railway Labor Act to reopen the existing contract.
That means the recently passed agreement under TWU can be reopened once the Teamsters become our bargaining representative.
Yesterday&rsquo;s vote is yet another strong reason to become Teamsters.
American Airlines is required by law to open up the contract for a newly-certified union to negotiate changes. And the Teamsters have pledged to enforce that right if we choose the Teamsters to represent us at A/A.


Sign a Teamster card today before the Layoff.

Wrong again. When a new union is certified and it replaces the current union the agreement in place will continue until it reaches its amendable date. If both parties agree on opening up the contract for a new one then yes you are correct. If a new union wins certification of a particular work group that had no prior union representation then negotiations between both parties will start. Stop believing what those idiots are saying. They want the same thing the TWU want. Your DUES money.

 

[riceweevil]

While Videtich stuffs his puss with chicken fried steak, we need to decide whether it will be Teamsters or AMFA that will release us from the Gulag. We need everyone on the same page. Ask yourself these questions:

• Who pays the most? UPS
• Who provides better name recognition and power? UPS
• Which union has the best opportunity to decertify the TWU? UPS
• Which union provides democracy to remove officers? AMFA

Remember this as well: Auto Shop and Facilities will not support AMFA. They will support Teamsters because they fear AMTs will sell Facilities down the drain. In a pursuit to get AMFA, know that roughly 2000 Title II will not sign cards. Better shot with getting them to sign Teamster cards.

Don't get clouded in a debate that splits the vote. This is what TWU wants. AMFA reps should get behind Teamsters, if for anything, to dump the TWU. If Teamsters cannot deliver, then Teamster backers should lay down and support AMFA takeover. This is logical. If we divide the house, TWU gets the last laugh. If we dump TWU, at least we send our message to TWU thanks for nothing.

We did not get in this to field to be broke. TWU has screwed the rest of the industry by using lemmings from 514 to scare people. Remember, Phat Don will tell you he did not have a vote. If we cannot agree on this, we are doomed.

We shamed the industry today. Watch the pilots and flight attendants and learn something.

The Auto Shop people at TULE looked at me like a martian when I offered them IBT Cards yesterday at lunch time .

 

[riceweevil]

Wrong again. When a new union is certified and it replaces the current union the agreement in place will continue until it reaches its amendable date. If both parties agree on opening up the contract for a new one then yes you are correct. If a new union wins certification of a particular work group that had no prior union representation then negotiations between both parties will start. Stop believing what those idiots are saying. They want the same thing the TWU want. Your DUES money.

Yeah, just like amfa and all other unions.