April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[dca319]

Sounds like that is precisely what Marty had asked Pat to agree to.

That's what I read as well. And with the pathetic attempt by our union to try and spin this, I believe AoL hasn't missed a beat.

 

[luvthe9]

With the NY case dismissed. Usapa will have plenty of time to work on the Arizona case. No more excuses, no more delays.

No permanent injunction on the west because the case was dismissed. No transfer to NY because judge Lane refused the case, dismissed.

Not much of a victory for usapa. The west agreeing not to do anything we never intended to do. The west was never going to try and stop the corporate merger. The Arizona case will define the seniority integration (merger).

Spin all usapa wants. They lost. Judge Lane tossed usapa out of his court.

Too funny! Harper tries to influence the AA bankruptcy and gets flushed. Talk about showing your cards and then watching the wind blow them away. USAPA crushed Leonidas. So did the UCC and that was even better. They view Leo like a bug that can be easily swatted!

 

[luvthe9]

That's what I read as well. And with the pathetic attempt by our union to try and spin this, I believe AoL hasn't missed a beat.

Looks like you will have it Crispy today Move.

 

[dca319]

You lost. SYIC.

No Jamie, we lost when we voted in this garbage of a union you helped found. They sure will see us in court - an AZ court. And considering that the merit in their case has been proven, I don't like our chances.

 

[dca319]

Looks like you will have it Crispy today Move.

Are you referring to chicken? Do you always have food on your mind. With how red your faced turned at the meeting, you'd think you'd be focused on losing weight.

 

[Graceson]

Yea, it ended up at the 9th. We expected to be back with a case which is ripe. Now that the case is ripe are you anticipating the same outcome?

I'd be more focused on the probability of the ripeness complaint being heard vs. the probability of an outcome.

So far, the courts have ruled on harm as the verifiable question of ripeness.

To date, it has been business as usual with respect to verifiable harm. No change, in fact, since Wake's court.

So the real allegation is the threat of harm. A higher standard to meet than actual harm. I'm not sure the west can clearly and factually define and then demonstrate all contigents leading to harm. Permiations of the equation are too numerous to remove doubt from any premature decision. The more prudent and safest path for a justice who wishes not to be overruled, is to stick with real rather than imagined harm.

 

[prechilill]

You lost. SYIC.

So, your case gets dismissed and you won? Lol.
Jeez Jamie, you are THAT dumb...

 

[prechilill]

. SYIC.

Yes, we will see you in court- Phoenix baby!!!

 

[dca319]

So, your case gets dismissed and you won? Lol.
Jeez Jamie, you are THAT dumb...

He's not regarded to highly over here. Miserable family life and disenfranchised from a union he helped found makes him am angry individual.

 

[Claxon]

So, your case gets dismissed and you won? Lol.
Jeez Jamie, you are THAT dumb...

The UCC specifically asks and gets court assurance of no Leonidas interference. In other words the taint of Leonidas was washed out of the court, and future American Airlines issues. Specifically an attempt by a rogue group to bring their seniority thievery into the bankruptcy proceedings. That, is a clear message that the UCC is running the show, and will mow Leonidas and Harper down as needed. It was needed today. So long Leonidas.

 

[Claxon]

He's not regarded to highly over here. Miserable family life and disenfranchised from a union he helped found makes him am angry individual.

He's not regarded to highly over here. Miserable family life and disenfranchised from a union he helped found makes him am angry individual.

Jamie is now Phoenix based?

 

[Res Judicata]

The UCC specifically asks and gets court assurance of no Leonidas interference. In other words the taint of Leonidas was washed out of the court, and future American Airlines issues. Specifically an attempt by a rogue group to bring their seniority thievery into the bankruptcy proceedings. That, is a clear message that the UCC is running the show, and will mow Leonidas and Harper down as needed. It was needed today. So long Leonidas.

Didn't your scab union drag this into bk court? AOL isn't going to interfere with the merger. We're going to severely interfere with you scabs and your highly illegal scheme. Yep SYIC.....in ARIZONA....you know, the place where you get your asses handed to you?

 

[Bill Brasky]

He's not regarded to highly over here. Miserable family life and disenfranchised from a union he helped found makes him am angry individual.

Yea. He should just pretend to be someone he's not. It seems to make some people on here happy....

 

[luvthe9]

Didn't your scab union drag this into bk court? AOL isn't going to interfere with the merger. We're going to severely interfere with you scabs and your highly illegal scheme. Yep SYIC.....in ARIZONA....you know, the place where you get your asses handed to you?

Remind me of how much that REMAND hurt. So you are saying you got remanded and paid 2 million for it and WE got our a$$es handed to us?

 

[Graceson]

The UCC specifically asks and gets court assurance of no Leonidas interference. In other words the taint of Leonidas was washed out of the court, and future American Airlines issues. Specifically an attempt by a rogue group to bring their seniority thievery into the bankruptcy proceedings. That, is a clear message that the UCC is running the show, and will mow Leonidas and Harper down as needed. It was needed today. So long Leonidas.

I tend to agree.

The court must assure itself that creditors' interests will be protected and that the POR it ultimately approves is executed as perscribed with only reasonable exceptions.

Short or longterm interference with projected synergies built into the Plan will not be tolerated.

The process will be allowed to play out with issues of ripeness and harm to be addressed after an SLI is decided by arbitration or mutual agreement. This is the just method to insure no interference with the merger timeline as defined by the court approved POR.