April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[nevergiveup]

It would have been over years ago if the 9th understood the kind of entity USAPA is. They warned them. USAPA ignored it. That's why, after all this time, a dozen lawyers need to convene in a BK Judges courtroom and discuss this BS that should have ended a long time ago. Wake thought it was ripe, Silver Thought it was Ripe, Lane thinks it's Ripe, Every attorney in the room thinks it's ripe, (except ustupid's) and the dissenting Judge at the 9th thought it was ripe.

Oh, and you claim USAPA want's this matter adjudicated in a timely manner? GMAFB. HAAAAAAA!!!!!

It would have been over years ago if the 9th understood the kind of entity USAPA is. They warned them. USAPA ignored it. That's why, after all this time, a dozen lawyers need to convene in a BK Judges courtroom and discuss this BS that should have ended a long time ago. Wake thought it was ripe, Silver Thought it was Ripe, Lane thinks it's Ripe, Every attorney in the room thinks it's ripe, (except ustupid's) and the dissenting Judge at the 9th thought it was ripe.

Oh, and you claim USAPA want's this matter adjudicated in a timely manner? GMAFB. HAAAAAAA!!!!!

Selling the west to mangagement is starting to look better and better! I think APA would approve as well.

 

[Bill Brasky]

It would have been over years ago if the 9th understood the kind of entity USAPA is. They warned them. USAPA ignored it. That's why, after all this time, a dozen lawyers need to convene in a BK Judges courtroom and discuss this BS that should have ended a long time ago. Wake thought it was ripe, Silver Thought it was Ripe, Lane thinks it's Ripe, Every attorney in the room thinks it's ripe, (except ustupid's) and the dissenting Judge at the 9th thought it was ripe.

Oh, and you claim USAPA want's this matter adjudicated in a timely manner? GMAFB. HAAAAAAA!!!!!

The Judge(s) at the Ninth understand it all better than you do. Plus, it really doesn't matter what you think. Silver absolutely DID NOT think it was ripe. That's why she said that the Ninth had tied her hands. Lane doesn't even know what it's about, and says so in that quote you guys keep throwing out that makes the USAPA case for them.

Every time you post it becomes clearer and clearer just how stupid but obstinate you all are.

 

[PullUp]

It would have been over years ago if the 9th understood the kind of entity USAPA is. They warned them. USAPA ignored it. That's why, after all this time, a dozen lawyers need to convene in a BK Judges courtroom and discuss this BS that should have ended a long time ago. Wake thought it was ripe, Silver Thought it was Ripe, Lane thinks it's Ripe, Every attorney in the room thinks it's ripe, (except ustupid's) and the dissenting Judge at the 9th thought it was ripe.

Oh, and you claim USAPA want's this matter adjudicated in a timely manner? GMAFB. HAAAAAAA!!!!!

The majority opinion of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decided that it was not ripe. For it to be ripe, injury must be present.
No list, no injury (if there ever was), and not ripe.
When is it ripe?
Not yet, according to the 9th.
Who will decide this again? The 9th circuit court.
What will they say? Probably that it STILL ISN'T RIPE!
Cheers.

 

[Phoenix]

When were you ever on LOA 93?

Yep. West furloughed pilot accepted recall to the East, DCA.. and planned on moving to CLT. Living, commuting to DCA on FO reserve LOA 93 pay. Surprised he isn't more of a potty mouth.

 

[PullUp]

The judge considers US Airways one company (1 list). He understands the previous merger needs to be completed before the US/AA merger starts. Usapa can continue to delay, file in the wrong court and send a BK attorney to seniority case, boneheads. Shouldn't poindexter at least been on the call? Judge was real impressed that those that filed the case didn't even bother to show up in person. Made some points with this judge....

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
The judge considers USAirways one company, but not 1 list. Doesn't have to be and it never was. Since you guys voted for an alternative path to seniority integration via the MOU, it never will be.
The previous merger is of no concern to the judge unless it holds up the future merger he is adjudicating.
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah.
Keep typing, its all BS.
Nic is dead. You are going to be an American Airlines employee - you're getting a raise and a position at the world's largest airline. Was that your career expectation? I think it far exceeded what you expected until now. Be happy.
Cheers.

 

[Black Swan]

Read the NY transcripts. Every single Lawyer in the room and the Judge see this as "never going to get MORE ripe" and want an expeditious end to the matter. Every Lawyer that is except for USAPA's whom, after a lot of qualified jabber, offered agreement as well, at which point Judge Lane made a Joke at his expense and laughter ensued.,

Oh yeah, this is going nowhere alright. Are you really going to be surprised at all when the Nic is ordered fairly soon? You shouldn't be.

None of you have a clue about the RLA .It is patently obvious. Six long years of spinning your wheels and you are stuck in the sand.

 

[Black Swan]

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
The judge considers USAirways one company, but not 1 list. Doesn't have to be and it never was. Since you guys voted for an alternative path to seniority integration via the MOU, it never will be.
The previous merger is of no concern to the judge unless it holds up the future merger he is adjudicating.
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah.
Keep typing, its all BS.
Nic is dead. You are going to be an American Airlines employee - you're getting a raise and a position at the world's largest airline. Was that your career expectation? I think it far exceeded what you expected until now. Be happy.
Cheers.

Exactly. Secure job, raise, etc. harm is in the eye of the beholder. There is none.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

None of you have a clue about the RLA .It is patently obvious. Six long years of spinning your wheels and you are stuck in the sand.

So true SWAN, the little SPARTANS should put an interesting "spin" on today's filing!

 

[Claxon]

The majority opinion of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decided that it was not ripe. For it to be ripe, injury must be present.
No list, no injury (if there ever was), and not ripe.
When is it ripe?
Not yet, according to the 9th.
Who will decide this again? The 9th circuit court.
What will they say? Probably that it STILL ISN'T RIPE!
Cheers.

Agreed

 

[Zone5]

So true SWAN, the little SPARTANS should put an interesting "spin" on today's filing!

This filing, that filing, this motion, that motion, if you're a lawyer, you got to love it!

Me, all I care about is that next DOH equipment bid coming out sometime this summer, I think I'll go ahead and bid the 330. Hard to pass up the money. Anybody in PHX thinking the same thing?......... NOT! Enjoy the next couple of YEARS in the "sand box" and then the fences, got to make sure your "career expectations" are protected. Is that a "LUP"?

Oh, and don't forget to get that 75 bid in, now that it matters! Is that a "LUP"?


seajay

 

[cleardirect]

None of you have a clue about the RLA .It is patently obvious. Six long years of spinning your wheels and you are stuck in the sand.

It seems that usapa does not understand RLA either.

Trying to file an RLA case in a BK court.

Did not work out for usapa did it?

 

[Bill Brasky]

It seems that usapa does not understand RLA either.

Trying to file an RLA case in a BK court.

Did not work out for usapa did it?

Seems to me that it accomplished exactly what they wanted. AOL and their useless lawyers can't interfere with the merger without being in contempt of court.

What else do you think they were trying to do?

 

[luvthe9]

It's over guys, Ferguson has fleeced your wallets enough, all the years and wasted money you have deprived your famlies of and for what. I told you boys from day one you will wind up in your rightful spots, you could have saved all that cash. Hiring another 150 to 200 on the EAST this year. Again most WEST pilots know it's finished, stop the nonsense.

 

[luvthe9]

. Was that your career expectation? I think it far exceeded what you expected until now. Be happy.
Cheers.

All the way from "PROJECT ZANIBAR" (remember your liquidation plan) to American Airlines, now that's a lottery ticket!!!!!. All of you little kids will wind up 777 capts, not to bad.

 

[cactusboy53]

It's over guys, Ferguson has fleeced your wallets enough, all the years and wasted money you have deprived your famlies of and for what. I told you boys from day one you will wind up in your rightful spots, you could have saved all that cash. Hiring another 150 to 200 on the EAST this year. Again most WEST pilots know it's finished, stop the nonsense.

That's an awful lot of desperation there, Cupcake. Not fleeced. Not in debt. Not wasted. Not deprived. Well funded & not even close to being finished. Standing FIRMLY on legal, moral, ethical and logical high ground (17 lawyers & a judge in the room: Everyone pretty much gets it). The nonsense started when you decided that you could try to cheat us. SYIC Luvr.