April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[nic4us]

What would be the timeline of your DFR suit from start to finish?

Clueless as usual.

The timeline is POR, single carrier status...bye bye uscaba. Hello Nic.

 

[Claxon]

UAL Pre Hearing Statement April 11, 2013

Excerpt

"It is not an overstatement to say that the evolution of Merger Policy including, United Air Lines Merger Committee most importantly, the changes to it following George Nicolau’s Award in the America West-US Airways case, is central to the resolution of this case. That Award, while eminently correct based on the facts in that case and the terms of Merger Policy then in effect (and now changed), created an environment within ALPA that was intolerable, and ultimately highly destructive for the union. As a consequence, ALPA amended Merger Policy in 2009, and it is that 2009 Policy that controls this case. It is likewise that Policy, which requires Arbitration Boards to construct ISLs taking account of three specific factors – status and category, longevity and career expectations –that guides the formation of the UAL Committee’s proposal in this case."

Wait a minute, this from UAL pilots Steve Gillen pilot "nuetral" for US Airways AWA debacle and former VP ALPA Paul Rice, from the Rice Committee, aka everything is fine US Airways pilots deal with it.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Clueless as usual.

The timeline is POR, single carrier status...bye bye uscaba. Hello Nic.

Nic who?

 

[Claxon]

Clueless as usual.

The timeline is POR, single carrier status...bye bye uscaba. Hello Nic.

Yes of course, Marty is at his manual typewriter with capital letters on 50 percent of the keys, creating his brief write now.

 

[end_of_alpa]

You cannot and will not put a pilot who only holds Reserve F/O ahead of a Captain on the same airplane.

wanna bet? And you want to strip employees of their length of service by changing the definition of seniority. George Nicolau does not have the legal authority to disregard longevity and ALPA did NOT have ANY legitimate purpose in disregarding LOS in their policy. I and the rest of the pilots have NO legal obligation to vote for a CBA that disregards LOS.

The pilots voted for the MOU and the MOU supersedes the transition agreement and that is a legal fact, Dan. Deal with it.

 

[nycbusdriver]

This time AWA was the acquiring airline!

Parker would disagree.

But keep smokin' that stuff. Sooner or later the guy in the lab coat will greet your arrival and you will be toast.

 

[end_of_alpa]

UAL Pre Hearing Statement April 11, 2013

Excerpt

"It is not an overstatement to say that the evolution of Merger Policy including, United Air Lines Merger Committee most importantly, the changes to it following George Nicolau’s Award in the America West-US Airways case, is central to the resolution of this case. That Award, while eminently correct based on the facts in that case and the terms of Merger Policy then in effect (and now changed), created an environment within ALPA that was intolerable, and ultimately highly destructive for the union. As a consequence, ALPA amended Merger Policy in 2009, and it is that 2009 Policy that controls this case. It is likewise that Policy, which requires Arbitration Boards to construct ISLs taking account of three specific factors – status and category, longevity and career expectations –that guides the formation of the UAL Committee’s proposal in this case."

Wait a minute, this from UAL pilots Steve Gillen pilot "nuetral" for US Airways AWA debacle and former VP ALPA Paul Rice, from the Rice Committee, aka everything is fine US Airways pilots deal with it.

And you can better believe THIS transcript will get entered in the final Chapter of ALPA. Delta will form their own union, we will be APA and SWA will be SWAPA. ALPA will be destroyed because of the Nicolau award and the TWA debaucle.

USAPA set the wheels in motion for all that the top of the LUP is LOS. From there all integrations will be measured. Time will tell.

 

[EastUS1]

I played no part in how the NIC list came to be ordered and, like you, can do nothing to change the facts:

"I played no part in how the NIC list came to be ordered..." Sigh! Yes, yes indeed. You're just an innocent little child that seeks no entirely unearned and unwarranted personal gain at the expense of people who've worked far longer than yourself. Understood. Go "spartans"! "Integrity Matters"! 🙂

"...and, like you, can do nothing to change the facts:.." Oh, I don't so much know about that. It's fast approaching six nic-less years now. It seems more the true case that you're the one who, despite your best efforts, can "do nothing to change the facts". 😉

 

[luvthe9]

The pilots voted for the MOU and the MOU supersedes the transition agreement and that is a legal fact, Dan. Deal with it.

You are wasting your time with Danny boy, he just does not get it.

 

[EastUS1]

Took your advice and it turns out the guy both one senior and one junior to me have exactly the same number of years worked .....

Wonderful (although your claim sounds like complete BS to me, unless both mentioned are also westies)...So what's your big heartache with DOH/LOS then? 😉

 

[traderjake]

wanna bet?

Yeah, how much?

On second thought, forget it.

You have a history of not keeping agreements.

 

[luvthe9]

This time AWA was the acquiring airline!

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[traderjake]

You are wasting your time with Danny boy, he just does not get it.

..............and Kasher will pay.

 

[luvthe9]

..............and Kasher will pay.

And the recall will work. You must be very upset about UAL leaving ALPO, bet your reading all your old issues.

 

[mrbreeze]

A good night to be parked in front of the TV with a tasty adult beverage......

30 minutes of watching Sheldon make a fool of himself again, and now my Denver Nuggets are gonna kick some butt!

cheers