April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[EastUS1]

ALPA will be destroyed because of the Nicolau award and the TWA debaucle.

If so (and be it much deserved)...hearts will be breaking only in Herndon. 🙂

 

[traderjake]

And the recall will work. You must be very upset about UAL leaving ALPO, bet your reading all your old issues.

The Recall worked, it ensured a vote on the MOU that will get us parity you'll never see.

 

[EastUS1]

Hey Greeter, you know what is different about this merger than the the 3 of 4 past mergers and seniority integrations?

This time AWA was the acquiring airline!

You are lucky to even have a job, .......

Thanks for the unquestionable first prize for joke of the day. DO be sure to explain your lofty fantasies to the APA people, and especially note how you've personally saved them, and that they're all "lucky to even have a job". While you're at it; don't forget to proudly boast of your run of luck aloft, and deride their accidents and tragedies. You might as well jump right in with them, making the same sort of fine impression your bunch did on the east pilots here. Perhaps including a "you'se" or two would help your case as well. Failing that; you could just shove an "Integrity Matters" T-shirt at them and then show 'em all your fine videos. 🙂 After all; they should be fairly warned of exactly what sort of infantile jackazz(es) they'll now be dealing with.

Go "spartans"!!! 🙂

 

[mrbreeze]

The Recall worked, it ensured a vote on the MOU that will get us parity you'll never see.

Of course, you know the MOU would have passed anyway........kind of a cheap badge for you to put on, eh?
breeze

 

[traderjake]

Of course, you know the MOU would have passed anyway........kind of a cheap badge for you to put on, eh?

The Recall ensured we got to vote on the MOU that Bill McKee didn't like and voted against.


Charlotte Domicile Update

Friday, 22 February 2013 20:14

.....The management that just convinced us to give up our scope for pennies on the dollar is a worthy enough opponent alone, but we must also defend our pilots from current union leadership that has assisted management in accomplishing their goals of devaluing the provisions of our contract without nearly adequate returns.

...We can also report that the CLT recall attempt was extremely harmful in our effort to get you adequate returns. It couldn’t have happened at a worse time, and we are sure that management is delighted with the actions of the pilots who were behind it.

 

[EastUS1]

The Recall ensured we got to vote on the MOU that Bill McKee didn't like and voted against.

"...We can also report that the CLT recall attempt was extremely harmful in our effort to get you adequate returns. It couldn’t have happened at a worse time, and we are sure that management is delighted with the actions of the pilots who were behind it."

'Nuff said.

 

[mrbreeze]

The Recall ensured we got to vote on the MOU that Bill McKee didn't like and voted against.


Charlotte Domicile Update

Friday, 22 February 2013 20:14

.....The management that just convinced us to give up our scope for pennies on the dollar is a worthy enough opponent alone, but we must also defend our pilots from current union leadership that has assisted management in accomplishing their goals of devaluing the provisions of our contract without nearly adequate returns.

...We can also report that the CLT recall attempt was extremely harmful in our effort to get you adequate returns. It couldn’t have happened at a worse time, and we are sure that management is delighted with the actions of the pilots who were behind it.

Yeah, you and chip must really be proud of your dirty political trick BS, trying to control things, regardless of what the majority might want. Sounds like the definition of a traitor to me.

Still a cheap ass badge to wear. Just an underhanded trick.
breeze

 

[traderjake]

Yeah, you and chip must really be proud of your dirty political trick BS, trying to control things, regardless of what the majority might want.

The MOU passed by 76%, I think the majority wanted a vote on the MOU.

The Recall ensured they got it.

 

[mrbreeze]

The MOU passed by 76%, I think the majority wanted a vote on the MOU.

The Recall ensured they got it.

Still a dirty trick on your part......it would have passed anyway IMHO! You just showed your true colors, traitor.

Your kind of BS is what causes a disfunctional union....that's the problem I have with you.
breeze

 

[luvthe9]

The Recall worked, it ensured a vote on the MOU that will get us parity you'll never see.

We're happy with a bankruptcy MOU, what an idiot!!!

 

[traderjake]

Still a dirty trick on your part......it would have passed anyway IMHO! You just showed your true colors, traitor.

It would have passed if the BPR prevented us from voting on it?

I guess in your twisted mind forming a new union to renege on a mutually agreed upon arbitration is not a dirty trick.

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[luvthe9]

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Your kind of BS is what causes a disfunctional union....that's the problem I have with you.
breeze

Along with over three forths of the CLT pilots.

 

[traderjake]

We're happy with a bankruptcy MOU, what an idiot!!!

76% of us are, too bad you'll retire before we get parity.

No wonder you're so p*ssed.

 

[cleardirect]

If you mean by paying dues did I agree, not really sure. But I know I did NOT agree to ALPA refusing to apply its own guidelines to any arbitrated results (no windfalls.) In fact, I did not agree with such disgust that I voted to throw them off the property. Talk about binding, they have not had a penny of my dues now for 5 years.

As to that failed "process" it was never completed, and I never did get that ALPA vote on a JCBA (and thus a new section 22.) And, unlike M/B or even our LOA 93 arbitrations, it was not "Federally binding." I know you disagree, but you have to get a court to tell me I am wrong. So far that is not even coming close to happening, in fact the closer the POR gets the more moot even your own desperate actions become.

You cannot and will not put a new hire pilot ahead of a pilot with seventeen years of unbroken service. How are we doing so far?

Greeter

You have not gotten a court or anyone in authority to say the ALPA rules were not followed or that the Nicolau was a windfall. Nothing but your opinion.

Judge Silver did say that an arbitrated list is fair.

 

[Claxon]

You have not gotten a court or anyone in authority to say the ALPA rules were not followed or that the Nicolau was a windfall. Nothing but your opinion.

Judge Silver did say that an arbitrated list is fair.

Yogi, do you have a quote of Judge Silver saying the list was fair? Let me help you, you do not.

The Honorable Jude Silvers quote;

"she stated in her October 11, 2012 Order, “An impartial arbitrator’s decision regarding an appropriate method of seniority integration is powerful evidence of a fair result.”