AUG/SEPT 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion
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As all readers can take your previous, and this last as well, as fully indicative of the fact that you've got absolutely nothing to say, and just show up to serve some sad need for attention...even if just at the truly pathetic level of an internet chat thread.
You really should consider making the effort to get some psychiatric help.
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Thanks for clearing that up. I spent a lot of time looking for a ruling. I'm sure Driver was scouring cyberspace as well. You got us both.
I've a question not based on any of the perpetual east vs west/west vs east: How would you suggest best employing those considerations Graceson? Let me add that's not any "bait", but just a notion towards opening up some reasonable discussion. So far?.....It seems that team tempe's been entirely unconcerned with US employee groups, and has focused little/no interest in dealing with other than the American people....and before anyone jumps aboard the east-west pilot debacle; it seems the case that no US labor groups have been greatly involved to date....
I did not know Republic was looking to buy 230 A320 series and 16 A330 airplanes.
Further, I have never been a one trick pony....I do not strictly believe in just relative position..I have always said each case turns on its own merit...and in our case the merits derived the Nic...if it had been relative position the east would have come out worse than the lottery gift Nicolau granted.
Have a safe flight junior....
You have the cart sooo far out in front of the horse you are making errors in your "what can we anticipate" thinking.
So, to answere Graceson's post asking if we should let the AOL leadership handle a seniority integration...my post tells him AOL is not there to do that.
usapa will handle the SLI integration......if they do it without the Nic.......AOL will be there.
exactly how does using the Nic stop the merger? Are you implying that usapa, the group that was all but ignored by the company is going to take its ball and go home..... again?
Sorry, you don't even have a ball to take home.
Oh, and LCC really does not have a West to sell. They do however have 10 aging 767s and 47 737s that could get parked tomorrow. hmmmmm.....don't want to bring old airplanes to a shiny new merger now do we?
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No, forcing the NIC will result in some disappointed east pilots for a little while and life will carry on. As you have seen from the MOU peeep show, there are more than a few east pilots ready to move forward and if that means the NIC is the list, then so be it. It's not the end of the world.
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Explain to us why APA cares if the pilot senior to you now is East or West.
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age, my friend, age.
It will just like a pro athlete you will take what"YOUR" contract affords you, scope etc, let history be your guide, PAN AM pacific, Braniff SA etc! The eggs are in the basket but hardly broken!
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The Scab Crimi 500
If you ask Steve Crimi or any of the Charlotte reps about the status of the MOU, they will lie and state that it has been pulled from the table. TheEye has confirmed that the MOU was not pulled, rather it was withheld from the US Airways Board of Directors for final approval pending the reversal of the BPR's decision to withhold their endorsement followed by membership ratification via a democratic vote.
In their typically selfish fashion, Steve Crimi and his ever dwindling support base are more concerned with their own imagined career trajectories than the pilot group as a whole. Whether it was using Jonathan Ornstein for a type rating at Freedom or supporting the destructive policies of Mike Cleary, he has left a trail of debris so large that even James Ray's alleged actions at Continental in 1983 look infinitesimally small. Crimi and his fellow Charlotte reps would rather deny every US Airways pilot a $40-60k year raise just so he can cut the line and catch his upgrade, which according to his estimate is only 500 numbers away.
It's imperative that every US Airways pilot flood the inbox of every BPR rep with the simple demand that the power of the line pilot rules the day, not the selfish actions of an elite few. Supposedly the founding premise of USAPA, beyond date of hire, was a return of the power to the pilot and out of the hands of greedy politicians. If the BPR successfully buries the MOU, USAPA will have failed the pilots of US AIrways beyond the dark days at the Key Bridge Marriott and the road that led to LOA 93.
The pilots of US Airways are smart, educated, and ready to vote. Let us decide whether the deal on the table is in our best interests. Let us educate ourselves by reading the actual MOU language, attending road shows, and questioning individual NAC members. Let us decide our own future.
Crimi's race must come to an end. Remind him and the rest of the BPR that they work for us, the line pilot. We'll decide and let them know whether the MOU is good for our families.
Time is of essence. The MOU has not been pulled by management. The BPR can and should reverse course.
Write them now, before it's too late!
If you ask Steve Crimi or any of the Charlotte reps about the status of the MOU, they will lie and state that it has been pulled from the table. TheEye has confirmed that the MOU was not pulled, rather it was withheld from the US Airways Board of Directors for final approval pending the reversal of the BPR's decision to withhold their endorsement followed by membership ratification via a democratic vote.
In their typically selfish fashion, Steve Crimi and his ever dwindling support base are more concerned with their own imagined career trajectories than the pilot group as a whole. Whether it was using Jonathan Ornstein for a type rating at Freedom or supporting the destructive policies of Mike Cleary, he has left a trail of debris so large that even James Ray's alleged actions at Continental in 1983 look infinitesimally small. Crimi and his fellow Charlotte reps would rather deny every US Airways pilot a $40-60k year raise just so he can cut the line and catch his upgrade, which according to his estimate is only 500 numbers away.
It's imperative that every US Airways pilot flood the inbox of every BPR rep with the simple demand that the power of the line pilot rules the day, not the selfish actions of an elite few. Supposedly the founding premise of USAPA, beyond date of hire, was a return of the power to the pilot and out of the hands of greedy politicians. If the BPR successfully buries the MOU, USAPA will have failed the pilots of US AIrways beyond the dark days at the Key Bridge Marriott and the road that led to LOA 93.
The pilots of US Airways are smart, educated, and ready to vote. Let us decide whether the deal on the table is in our best interests. Let us educate ourselves by reading the actual MOU language, attending road shows, and questioning individual NAC members. Let us decide our own future.
Crimi's race must come to an end. Remind him and the rest of the BPR that they work for us, the line pilot. We'll decide and let them know whether the MOU is good for our families.
Time is of essence. The MOU has not been pulled by management. The BPR can and should reverse course.
Write them now, before it's too late!
Who writes this BS, and guess what? we pulled our answer. ! Word up If all BPR members affirmed a "NO" vote that sure aint a sign of "dwindling support" I would write, as you should your next check to AOL!
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