AUG/SEPT 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion
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Lately...depending on the definition of that probably none. But you asked the original question, hoping to prove your self-proclaimed superiority, and I answered honestly. That the answer wasn't to your liking is your problem...
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Who said it can't go back that way? It is a quoted methodology for integration. Allegheny/Mohawk. Just because things got away from the way the rest of the ENTIRE airline with exception of the pilots merged doesn't mean we shouldn't fix it.
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Who says it's broken...except those like you, EastUSeless, etc that want to jump ahead of the west pilots??
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Looking forward, you don't have much of a following for your recall. Here is the same advice we give Leonidas: KEEP THE DONATIONS COMING!!!!!
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They are doing the jumping. Nicolau got it way wrong, and we are correcting it.
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Let's see...an eastie pilot furloughed in 2005 wants to be above a west 757 captain on the combined list and it's the west 757 captain doing the jumping??? You're just showing how full of BS you are...just like EastUSeless and others....
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Did these guys get it wrong too?
Integrated Seniority List In the Matter of the Seniority Integration Arbitration Between
THE PILOTS OF NORTHWEST AIRLINES, INC. and THE PILOTS OF DELTA AIRLINES, INC.
www.nwaafa.org/docs/alpa/ALPASenAwardDLNWNoNames.pdf?.v=2 · PDF file
We turn first to the competing proposals concerning the underlying integration
method: Date-of-Hire versus a Status and Category/Ratio approach. Although there are
advantages and disadvantages to each method, the facts of this case persuade this Board
that the Status and Category approach is the more fair and equitable. To be sure, prior
ALPA Arbitration Boards have merged Seniority Lists by means of date-weighted
methods. But in this case, that method is not sufficiently responsive to the makeup of
these two groups.
"The relative seniority mismatch between the two contingents results, when combined
by Date-of-Hire, in a dramatic overloading of NWA pilots in premium flying categories, an imbalance that remains a virtual fixture in the ongoing relationship between the parties."
More wholesale horse crap. There's no surprise even possible with that anymore. I've no notions of bidding into PHX. Explain to us all how C&R's preventing east folks from intruding into PHX and displacing the locals, while providing for the west people to be able to bid east based on DOH would injure anyone? Well...except for those greedy sorts lusting after instantly manufactured (and entirely fake) systemwide "seniority" that is? 😉
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Well Gollum...why not try doing so for once? "Gollum: [to Sam] Stupid, fat hobbit. Gollum: We wants it, we needs it. Must have the precious. They stole it from us!!! ..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz-8CSa9xj8&feature=fvwrel
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