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AUG/SEPT 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

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I haven't been here for a few years and I can see that nothing has changed. I haven't missed this at all and I don't know how you pass your medicals' BP test. Biding my time on the 767 or 330 until I retire, but, damn it has been a good week to have the moniker CAVOK! Thank you USAPA and thank you Judge Silver.
 
I haven't been here for a few years and I can see that nothing has changed. I haven't missed this at all and I don't know how you pass your medicals' BP test. Biding my time on the 767 or 330 until I retire, but, damn it has been a good week to have the moniker CAVOK! Thank you USAPA and thank you Judge Silver.

Welcome back! USAPA thwarted the western theft while you were away.
 
I haven't been here for a few years and I can see that nothing has changed. I haven't missed this at all and I don't know how you pass your medicals' BP test. Biding my time on the 767 or 330 until I retire, but, damn it has been a good week to have the moniker CAVOK! Thank you USAPA and thank you Judge Silver.

Claxon is that you and one of your alter egos? If not, you've got to be joking. If you hadn't helped form USAPA you'd be bidding the same aircraft and be a couple hundred thousand richer. Blood pressure test? I thought laughter helped lower BP. With that kind of IQ how do you find your way to the airport? Oh wait, I know, you steal a ride in a taxi scab. Oopps, I mean cab.

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If you had kept that quote in context you would have a different meaning. The company accepted the Nicolau now they are not trustworthy or have the integrity to live up to their word like east pilots? If the company can change it's mind why would you believe they would live up to anything else in the contract?

Now if as you think the company just accepts seniority why have they not done it for 5 years? Why would they suddenly accept DOH now even though the court did not give them an answer to the question?
Well put in context! SEIGEL, direct answer to the judge, Pgs 12-14, BTW Kasher still sittn on that 3% grievence we will see, besides attrition train leav'n, new hires, our raises will be in upgrades in status and category, Good Luck, It's a risk thing!
 
I haven't been here for a few years and I can see that nothing has changed. I haven't missed this at all and I don't know how you pass your medicals' BP test. Biding my time on the 767 or 330 until I retire, but, damn it has been a good week to have the moniker CAVOK! Thank you USAPA and thank you Judge Silver.

I see another idiot has poked his head out of his hole.

Ok morons, here's the deal. Three outcome were a possibility and only one would have given you a chance - Silver granting the company immunity from legal action. That didn't happen.

The second was here telling the company they had to use Nic - also didn't happen.

The third was her telling the company that it was their choice of how to proceed with all the legal jeopardy attached - that's what happened. The company is pissed because they wanted an easy way out and didn't get it do they lost.

As for us, NOTHING has changed. USAPA still risks a proven DFR lawsuit and the company is complicit. USAPA today, just as they have been for years, can negotiate away from the Nic.

Nothing new.

Your still on LOA93 and will be for many years if this merger fails.

Deep breath easties, there's still a ways to go and our lawsuit is ready.

Now back to your gynormous circle jerk.
 
You are saying that Parker and the company DO have integrity?

Judge Silver has not stopped anything. She so far has refused to answer the question two very different things.
Well were still waiting for that giant pumpkin of an injunction she was supposed to give us! Maybe you should have talked to Marty before the oral argument, I believe he tried to sell the validity of the NIC, but it wasn't about the NIC, remember!
 
Says every judge who has looked at the case....

Harm will be measured relative to the Nic, and the reason why the east formed the scab union.....

West still has the smoking gun letter Bradford received.


See Barrister, the deal is usapa was formed with the specific purpose of scabbing West jobs, we have mounds of evidence to back that up. usapa was not formed to "serve the pilot group as a whole".

So, every bit of case law you care to look at says a successor union inherits the predecessor's contracts, that discrimination against a minority class just to appease the majority is not a "legitimate union purpose" and Dan Davis is a scab.
Run along and write your checks, Marty calls!
 
In any case, I see more delays in our future. USAPA (meaning the BPR), in my opinion, is incapable of crafting a comprehensive proposal to satisfy the problems with the seniority integration. They lack both the courage and the foresight to pull it off. Most of them will take what happened in Judge Silver's court as a blank check to do what they want and that is clearly not the case. No, it doesn't have to be the NIC, but it had better be something that protects the interests of the West pilots or USAPA ends up back in court defending a DFR suit.

Sorry, I'm stating the obvious but I just felt like saying it...

Driver...
I think you make a valid point. If the BPR put out a draft of a list that was everything but the NIC in name (and maybe a chicken bone to Luv9) and a temporary change to the CBL to allow a non DOH list for one specific situation, you may have something that spans the gap between accceptable enough to ratify and close enough to NIC to not garner the necessary support to litigate (except from a fringe element of AOL, and you gotta admit every group has them). If they spike the ball with DOH, then they should expect to receive a spike of their own.
 
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