August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[cleardirect]

Not even remotely involved with USAPA, just throwing out ideas for discussion here.
Entertainment value only.
Cheers.

Sure!

Just happened that the morning you bring up the idea of specifically dismissed with prejudice usapa just happens to file for that very thing that evening.

 

[Reed Richards]

No "list" can be brought to MB by USAPA. We all voted on the MOU, saying listS. No NIC, no DOH list to be presented. As I predicted, the end game is now a seat at the table. Silver will contort herself to try and do just that, but it will fail on appeal. Of all the arguments presented by USAPA, the strongest is one (that most West posters have paraded here for years) that there is only one bargaining agent for all US Airways pilots. That would be USAPA, a National union running two pilot groups under two different contracts. ALPA did the same thing, we all forget. So not even potential damages until the POR clock starts, but somehow Marty thinks the West class are owed legal fees going back to 2005? I remain unconvinced it does not hurt to ask. It looks pitiful and speaks to trivial pursuit. RR

 

[mrbreeze]

Even usapa is saying that integration will be done by M/B (not legal).

Another Sheldon theory.

 

[Claxon]

Another Sheldon theory.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK_culjajRw

Sheldon is chock full of odd theories and lectures.

 

[Claxon]

Representation by extortion. A union bent on destruction of a third of the pilot group. We voted in the contract called the MOU to rid ourselves of the problem of USAPA and DOH.

A union which is out the door has no responsibility other than packing their bags and getting off our property.

" They won't get 200 cards........"

 

[traderjake]

No "list" can be brought to MB by USAPA.

Prepare youself for exactly that happening.

 

[prechilill]

No more Warped that one whom toes the USAPA line in one breath and claims not to agree with them the next. At least I'm always consistent. I view the situation as it is. As it actually exists in reality... without resorting to the self-serving filter of a hypocrite.

He's Self obsessed as well. It's funny to read his posts... I hope he doesn't ever dislocate his shoulders straightening out his wings emanating from his back.

 

[cactusboy53]

https://www.youtube....h?v=zJj_CrxkoTY

Lee Seham took the time to explain to the viewing audience that changing representation does not alter or cancel any existing agreement made on behalf of the employees by the previous representative. He quotes the 42nd Annual Report of the NMB and the Federal Court's adoption of the same tenet: "well established principle that a mere change of representatives does NOT alter otherwise applicable contractual agreements...(FUNNY - apparently this is from a court proceeding with the US Air Flight Attendants).

So, was he right when he represented USAPA in your DOH chase OR is he right with the above video to the AA Mechanics?

Please show your work when answering..... B)

 

[Phoenix]

No "list" can be brought to MB by USAPA. We all voted on the MOU, saying listS. No NIC, no DOH list to be presented. As I predicted, the end game is now a seat at the table. Silver will contort herself to try and do just that, but it will fail on appeal. Of all the arguments presented by USAPA, the strongest is one (that most West posters have paraded here for years) that there is only one bargaining agent for all US Airways pilots. That would be USAPA, a National union running two pilot groups under two different contracts. ALPA did the same thing, we all forget. So not even potential damages until the POR clock starts, but somehow Marty thinks the West class are owed legal fees going back to 2005? I remain unconvinced it does not hurt to ask. It looks pitiful and speaks to trivial pursuit. RR

How many terms and conditions of the MOU can Silver change before any signatory to it can legally argue the contingent agreement is thus nullified and all negotiated aspects must be revisited and duly agreed to?

 

[Phoenix]

https://www.youtube....h?v=zJj_CrxkoTY

Lee Seham took the time to explain to the viewing audience that changing representation does not alter or cancel any existing agreement made on behalf of the employees by the previous representative. He quotes the 42nd Annual Report of the NMB and the Federal Court's adoption of the same tenet: "well established principle that a mere change of representatives does NOT alter otherwise applicable contractual agreements...(FUNNY - apparently this is from a court proceeding with the US Air Flight Attendants).

So, was he right when he represented USAPA in your DOH chase OR is he right with the above video to the AA Mechanics?

Please show your work when answering..... B)

Non sequitur.

Ask Lee something import and relevant to the current state of facts and circumstances and then get back to us.

 

[cactusboy53]

Non sequitur.

Ask Lee something import and relevant to the current state of facts and circumstances and then get back to us.

Hey, he's the legal genius that you guys gave MILLIONS & MILLIONS to. Slam dunk!

 

[Phoenix]

Hey, he's the legal genius that you guys gave MILLIONS & MILLIONS to. Slam dunk!

(Non sequitur) X (2)

([background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]Ask Lee something import and relevant to the current state of facts and circumstances and then get back to us.)X(2)[/background]

 

[EastUS1]

"man"? 'cactusboy53: "This is SPARTA!''...."I will let the courts do my talking for me." Sigh! Lighten up a bit. After all...Not everyone can be a "spartan" and true...umm..."pillar" of "righteousness" to boot. 🙂

Two "minus votes", but not so much as even one "spartan" umm "pilot" willing to do other than "let the courts do my talking for me."...? Most "impressive" indeed. 🙂

No matter really. Take comfort, since not everyone can be a "spartan" and true...umm..."pillar" of...err..."righteousness"...No matter how many badge-backers you buy, or completely Fantasyland/BS-Drama-Queens'-notions you choose to subscribe to. 😉

Oh well....Boring, but predictable by now. Wager's always open. Any overly-excited/puffed-up-chest/plain-mad-at-evil-easties, or just equally bored "spartan(s)" feel perfectly free to PM, if interested. Aww...heck...how about even this pathetic little punk? He was so eagerly excited about the very thought of even just denying evil easties jumpseats "to their face"...How could "he" possibly pass up a chance like this?..."Oh Lords and Ladies of westeross"? 🙂

https://www.youtube....DCDEE4D2ADA2659

 

[Freighterguynow]

What? I should be bidding a wide-body? Wow, that's a lot of damage. Sorry, just kidding, couldn't resist.

Bean

No, kidding aside, you've at least gotten into the ballpark that is step 2 in the problem of slotting (one past Trader). Try for step 3 ( TA) and most likely 4 (Addington 1) for extra credit.

 

[PullUp]

Sure!
Just happened that the morning you bring up the idea of specifically dismissed with prejudice usapa just happens to file for that very thing that evening.

Lucky guess, that's all.
I guess great minds think alike.....
Nah.