August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Claxon]

I agree with you, the east pilots (BK) should have been slotted in just like the TWA (BK) pilots were at AA. You guys got super seniority with Nicolau...

They didn't get the Nicolau. Take your mothers little helper and come back to reality. How about your silly little countdown clock?

 

[Claxon]

You are too stupid to realize that Moak action got USAPA exactly the votes that were needed. You have absolutely no clue just how stupid a move that was. Put anyone on the fence right over.
That move cost you the Nic. And Moak helped ALPA lose another carrier. What an idiot.

Yes, that was a brilliant move by Moak. Hello USAPA.

 

[snapthis]

Another laptop? With all the data you mined with the internal data gathering you were involved in, surprised the NSA wasn't coming around to Leonidas HQ to access some.

What data mining?

Claxon, I'd stop listening to those voices in your head.

 

[Freighterguynow]

You want to tilt at windmills, be my guess.

Slotting by equipment and status, mark this prediction.

Yet another non-answer from you. I expected nothing less.

It will not be easy as you hope.

 

[Phoenix]

Slotting by equipment and status, mark this prediction.

Welcome to the club. Many of us said that is the most likely outcome about a year ago.

Why are you giving up on the Nic?

 

[Keroseneuser]

Slotting by equipment and status, mark this prediction.

That's my take as well, though I differ from you in that I think it will be slotting by using 3 lists, east , west, and APA. Just a feeling from reading all the court stuff and the lack of any judge to date wanting to get too involved in "ordering" the unions to use a specific list. I think at this point anybody dreaming of the NIC being used as the USAirways list going into this process is going to be disappointed, just as the ones dreaming of a USAirways DOH list will be. My bar stool prediction is the courts are going to treat the awa/usair pilot group merger as an incomplete merger that after 8 years is much easier to consider a failed process than try to wade thru all the baggage and crap that goes with it. I think the MOU will be viewed as the way out, it puts to rest both the DOH and the NIC question and gives all groups a chance to come together as each list currently is. No matter how you look at it neither list looks anything like it did back in 2005. I don't think the courts are even going to try to sort out crap that happened almost a decade ago at this point. Time will tell.

 

[prechilill]

That's my take as well, though I differ from you in that I think it will be slotting by using 3 lists, east , west, and APA. Just a feeling from reading all the court stuff and the lack of any judge to date wanting to get too involved in "ordering" the unions to use a specific list. I think at this point anybody dreaming of the NIC being used as the USAirways list going into this process is going to be disappointed, just as the ones dreaming of a USAirways DOH list will be. My bar stool prediction is the courts are going to treat the awa/usair pilot group merger as an incomplete merger that after 8 years is much easier to consider a failed process than try to wade thru all the baggage and crap that goes with it. I think the MOU will be viewed as the way out, it puts to rest both the DOH and the NIC question and gives all groups a chance to come together as each list currently is. No matter how you look at it neither list looks anything like it did back in 2005. I don't think the courts are even going to try to sort out crap that happened almost a decade ago at this point. Time will tell.

If you read Silver's court filing you would understand your supposition isn't even mentioned in the proceeding- i.e. it's not even on the table. You are either stupid and can't understand basic english (possible) or so emotionally tied up in this you can't think realistically (likely). Either way, it is apparent you angry fo's live in an alternate universe and can't figure out what awaits you.
Reality is about to kick you in the satchel.
As I correctly predicted two months ago: RIPE
You girls are cornered... just a matter of time now.

 

[cleardirect]

That's my take as well, though I differ from you in that I think it will be slotting by using 3 lists, east , west, and APA. Just a feeling from reading all the court stuff and the lack of any judge to date wanting to get too involved in "ordering" the unions to use a specific list. I think at this point anybody dreaming of the NIC being used as the USAirways list going into this process is going to be disappointed, just as the ones dreaming of a USAirways DOH list will be. My bar stool prediction is the courts are going to treat the awa/usair pilot group merger as an incomplete merger that after 8 years is much easier to consider a failed process than try to wade thru all the baggage and crap that goes with it. I think the MOU will be viewed as the way out, it puts to rest both the DOH and the NIC question and gives all groups a chance to come together as each list currently is. No matter how you look at it neither list looks anything like it did back in 2005. I don't think the courts are even going to try to sort out crap that happened almost a decade ago at this point. Time will tell.

In your world if someone is able to delay long enough the court will just ignore the case? So since we have known about the dangers of asbestos or cigarettes for years no more cases should be brought?

Intentionally delaying and demanding compromise gets rewarded? Is that your theory?

Since you did not get what you wanted with arbitration delay, delay, delay and get your redo. Is that how you think the legal world works?

You should go and look at some civil case and how long it takes the court to sort out. Cases don't just go away because time passes.

 

[Keroseneuser]

In your world if someone is able to delay long enough the court will just ignore the case? So since we have known about the dangers of asbestos or cigarettes for years no more cases should be brought?

Intentionally delaying and demanding compromise gets rewarded? Is that your theory?

Since you did not get what you wanted with arbitration delay, delay, delay and get your redo. Is that how you think the legal world works?

You should go and look at some civil case and how long it takes the court to sort out. Cases don't just go away because time passes.

LOL. You and Prechill are a pair. I simply put out a prediction of what might happen. Between the two of you I get responses ranging from "angry f/o" to a warning about the health effects of cigarettes. Truth is I could care less which way this thing ends up. It makes not even the slightest difference in my life at this point. In another 5 years the lists will be so different that none of this epic decade long pissing contest will matter to any of us. Well maybe it still will to you two since it seems your entire life revolves around this crap. I truly feel sorry for your families, it must be a near insufferable mess to try to co exist with either of you at home. As to my few and far between responses to this thread? It provides entertainment since it is guaranteed that the terminally psychotic "NIC is it" crowd will never fail to amuse in how serious they take an internet chat board. I eagerly await your next post and have a comical vision of you two furiously pounding on the keys with a bit of spittle frothing from your mouth, much like several of the west crew news videos show. Happy posting!

 

[nic4us]

You are too stupid to realize that Moak action got USAPA exactly the votes that were needed. You have absolutely no clue just how stupid a move that was. Put anyone on the fence right over.
That move cost you the Nic. And Moak helped ALPA lose another carrier. What an idiot.

Ever occur to you that Moak wanted the east to vote in uscaba?

Solved two ALPA problems with one stone.

You fell for it hook, line and sinker, and are still chewing the bait.

Oh, and, the Nic is still the only accepted system seniority list for all LCC pilots. Did a judge ever vacate that final and binding arbitration award 6 years ago when it was still contestable within the SOL of such a matter? If not, then expect it in an upcoming SLI with another pilot group!

 

[nevergiveup]

Ever occur to you that Moak wanted the east to vote in uscaba?

Solved two ALPA problems with one stone.

You fell for it hook, line and sinker, and are still chewing the bait.

Oh, and, the Nic is still the only accepted system seniority list for all LCC pilots. Did a judge ever vacate that final and binding arbitration award 6 years ago when it was still contestable within the SOL of such a matter? If not, then expect it in an upcoming SLI with another pilot group!

Um...sure. And this is why we are where we are today. Best of luck to you, but I don't think there will be a free ride for you in the future( 2 years away plus!)

 

[luvthe9]

Well any word on our president's attempt to get re-qual in the sim the other day (while on a medical) never heard of anyone doing that before, rumor has it the chief pilots office got wind of this and pulled him out. I guess he is above the law (and the rest of us).

 

[Claxon]

What data mining?

Claxon, I'd stop listening to those voices in your head.

Sorry, you must be correct. Parker never bought the Lifelock TM for the eastern group either to protect the social security numbers and addresses. I don't know where I got the idea.

 

[Claxon]

Ever occur to you that Moak wanted the east to vote in uscaba?

Solved two ALPA problems with one stone.

You fell for it hook, line and sinker, and are still chewing the bait.

Oh, and, the Nic is still the only accepted system seniority list for all LCC pilots. Did a judge ever vacate that final and binding arbitration award 6 years ago when it was still contestable within the SOL of such a matter? If not, then expect it in an upcoming SLI with another pilot group!

Probably the dumbest of the numerous idiotic posts NoNic4 US has done yet.

 

[Claxon]

LOL. You and Prechill are a pair. I simply put out a prediction of what might happen. Between the two of you I get responses ranging from "angry f/o" to a warning about the health effects of cigarettes. Truth is I could care less which way this thing ends up. It makes not even the slightest difference in my life at this point. In another 5 years the lists will be so different that none of this epic decade long pissing contest will matter to any of us. Well maybe it still will to you two since it seems your entire life revolves around this crap. I truly feel sorry for your families, it must be a near insufferable mess to try to co exist with either of you at home. As to my few and far between responses to this thread? It provides entertainment since it is guaranteed that the terminally psychotic "NIC is it" crowd will never fail to amuse in how serious they take an internet chat board. I eagerly await your next post and have a comical vision of you two furiously pounding on the keys with a bit of spittle frothing from your mouth, much like several of the west crew news videos show. Happy posting!

Captain Gay is clearly the strangest actor in the videos. Scott Kirby is visibly disturbed by his presence.