No, not at all. I include myself along with my fellow east pilots.
August 2013 Pilot Discussion
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No, not at all. I include myself along with my fellow east pilots.
Well you know I did cause all of this. I'm tired of carrying the burden and just want to confess. That and global warming, that's on me too. But, I invented the internet, not Gore!
I feel so much better. Thank you phx, I mean dca319.
If I remember correctly, I do believe Nicolau asked our MC to move off of DoH numerous times. And, in previous mergers, the slotting did work. The only string of events here is that we didn't get exactly what we wanted.
So is your mom. Let's move on now.
It wasn't slotting like this. Had it been more reasonable it would have worked here.
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Other than some thoughtful comments from East pilot PI Brat, and a confession of illiteracy and an inappropriate invitation from Traderjack, not one West pilot will engage me on my questions. So I will just keep posting them over and over, just like the "NIC is it."
While Move continues his meltdown/identity crisis I want to repeat some of my superhero questions. The West and the Company are demanding, and many here have thoughtfully suggested the end game will be a seat at the table for the West class. Who would sit at the table? If the Court picks some person or group, how do they legally represent all PHX pilots without an election? If the chosen party does not meet the expectations of others in PHX, what is their course of justice? Who do they sue, and how could they sue a group that was not their legally elected bargaining agent? The Company's outside counsel has really screwed up, and Judge Silver is probably now having the same dilemma: How do you create a new bargaining agent/class out of thin air without an election? Such an election would include all parties even remotely affected, including furloughed, LTD, and Military Leave pilots. And especially pilots who are not currently members of USAPA (about 500 guys out West.) RR
While Move continues his meltdown/identity crisis I want to repeat some of my superhero questions. The West and the Company are demanding, and many here have thoughtfully suggested the end game will be a seat at the table for the West class. Who would sit at the table? If the Court picks some person or group, how do they legally represent all PHX pilots without an election? If the chosen party does not meet the expectations of others in PHX, what is their course of justice? Who do they sue, and how could they sue a group that was not their legally elected bargaining agent? The Company's outside counsel has really screwed up, and Judge Silver is probably now having the same dilemma: How do you create a new bargaining agent/class out of thin air without an election? Such an election would include all parties even remotely affected, including furloughed, LTD, and Military Leave pilots. And especially pilots who are not currently members of USAPA (about 500 guys out West.) RR
Indeed. Those are seemingly obvious, but completely overlooked and strangely disregarded questions here.
Reasonable to the west, an arbitrator, and two pilot neutrals. The only party complaining was the east. I guess "reasonable" is a matter of opinion and that's why we ended up with an arbitration in the first place.
Well, good luck with that, they seem short on answers today. I think I have clear all tied up on the C&BLs, so don't expect much from him.
BTW, he prefers Uhaul. I think that was my best work on this board.
And...The electronic signature is now affixed and complete. One must honestly feel at least some degree of sympathy.
Actually read the opinion and award where Brucia's dissent is and get back to me. You really ought to try thinking for yourself instead of taking everything from AOL.
Dang it east. There is no way that will get past the super sleuths now!
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Never;
He isn't letting anything get to him. He is trying to get you and your pals to understand the law. He is trying to get you and your pals to understand civics. He is trying to get your and your pals to understand common sense. He is trying to get you and your pals to understand that in life there IS a moral and ethics code that you can not evade, and ultimately will be judged by.
You and your pals have changed union representation in an attempt to evade an agreed upon process. You and your pals have sought to persecute and attack our smaller pilot group. You and your pals have forced us to pay dues to the new "union", thus making the AWA pilots pay for BOTH sides of the legal argument.
This is going to be over in very short order. If you want to know which way the judge will opt, you should read her orders and findings. You should also read EVERY OTHER party's legal documents. USAPA is the only party that still says they can do anything they want. USAPA is still the only party that says they have done nothing wrong. USAPA is the only party that still says "it's not ripe". Heck, even Mike - I'M SUING USAPA JUST BECAUSE I CAN - Cleary said that NO COURT HAS EVER OVERTURNED A FINAL AND BINDING ARBITRATION.
What a shame! Nearly 3/4 of a Billion dollars in the company's pocket, and not in ours. All for a ill planned DOH scheme. Shame, shame, shame.
Happy Days, my friend.
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