August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Piedmont1984]

Yet another traitor in our midst. As I always suspected. Archived sir. And don't worry, you are not alone. Just as expected, that under the stress of the latest news you would "come out" for us all, just like 1984.Go ALPA indeed. RR

You really are a fool. LS is a good man, but he isn't a traitor and was never in our midst.

 

[Reed Richards]

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Right. That is why AWA had the FIRST post- 9/11 contract with significant improvements, real industry leading Short Term Disability, pilot life insurance, vacation, scheduling, etc.

Keep spinning your hyperbole Swanny.

How are you and Silver doing with your now famous cupcake recipe? RR

 

[Reed Richards]

You really are a fool. LS is a good man, but he isn't a traitor and was never in our midst.

Right. Keep working on that prenup with ALPA. You are so transparent. RR

 

[Phoenix]

Singing praises I won't do. Eating dirt is a metaphor. Cutting a deal for a higher purpose, it was just my thought of the day. Beer is good. Kool Aid I don't like, whether it's made by ALPA or USAPA.

Beer, wine, coke, koolaid, whatever. I'm generous.. ALPA can have all of it for free when I'm finished with it. And if they want to eat dirt with my used beer they can dig their own dirt.

 

[end_of_alpa]

A few of the right people in place could have made a world of difference.

"....the reality is that the East-controlled USAPA is the root cause of the troubles for the West." Leonidas Update July 20, 2013

It's not ALPA....it's the scum of the earth East pilots. And now, more delay because.....IT'S NOT RIPE! We'll know Friday what Silver does.

 

[Claxon]

"....the reality is that the East-controlled USAPA is the root cause of the troubles for the West." Leonidas Update July 20, 2013

It's not ALPA....it's the scum of the earth East pilots. And now, more delay because.....IT'S NOT RIPE! We'll know Friday what Silver does.

No SYIC from cupcake? He has thrown that threat as much as Nic4 and his damages.
Prechillil will have to assemble another countdown clock. Seems the prior ones ran backwards when started. Cleardirect? Probably scripting a lecture for his leaders. Deserved this time. Doug Parker needs a lecture. Back to the future again.

 

[Portly Dorman]

The west has voted 98% for lousy contracts for years. Marty got a bunch more cash in his pocket for the Sept 24th dismissal. The saga continues.

Let's bring back the folks who brought the east LOA93 and the pension termination. After all they can get us MORE!!!

Remember CAPTAIN MIKE CLEARY and Randy "Doorframe" Mowery said "no alpa seniority integration has ever been overturned"

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

No SYIC from cupcake? He has thrown that threat as much as Nic4 and his damages.
Prechillil will have to assemble another countdown clock. Seems the prior ones ran backwards when started. Cleardirect? Probably scripting a lecture for his leaders. Deserved this time. Doug Parker needs a lecture. Back to the future again.

The summer of 2001, aint it great! This court battle with the DOJ will be interesting, DUI had months to work out a solution, Of course the analysts paint a rosey picture, don't want a stock sell-off to devalue their portfolio's, did not fool SORO's he bailed TUES, hope the small investor looks to the past and doesn't repeat those mistakes!

 

[Portly Dorman]

Ah, one of the predicted "senior" pilots who will now accept the NIC to get a raise. A prenup with ALPA, the union that "had its way with us" 6 years ago? No thank you, no need in bonding with the rapist who ruined my life. And there is no "new" CBA." We are currently under LOA 93. You try and be such the Solomon. Can you please tell me the legal logic again on your oh so wise prediction of a three way? As a superhero I am pretty tolerant. Think I am done with you, you are no better than Cleardirect, all over the place with no logic. Just rhetoric. You have never responded to my questions as to the creation of a new bargaining class. Not once.RR

Your brain trust had there way with you. You can't continue to recycle the same leadership over and over and expect different results. Didn't the previous union encourage you to freeze the pension and take a better contract??

The dear leader is suing the because one of the brain trust never trade marked the name (both of whom are out on LTD) and the former grievance chair (also out on LTD) is living it up south of the boarder.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Let's bring back the folks who brought the east LOA93 and the pension termination. After all they can get us MORE!!!

Remember CAPTAIN MIKE CLEARY and Randy "Doorframe" Mowery said "no alpa seniority integration has ever been overturned"

Well that is sorta funny considering ALPA and the DOJ have something in common; "THE EVER CHANGING MERGER POLICY"

 

[end_of_alpa]

Right. That is why AWA had the FIRST post- 9/11 contract with significant improvements, real industry leading Short Term Disability, pilot life insurance, vacation, scheduling, etc.

Keep spinning your hyperbole Swanny.

Hey Dave. How come the contributors list has "names withheld by request" yet listed them by alphabetical order. Especially the one between Pierson and Plumhoff. Who could that be and why doesn't he want his name revealed? Is he ashamed?

Here is why we can never work together:

"....the reality is that the East-controlled USAPA is the root cause of the troubles for the West." Leonidas Update July 20, 2013

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Hey Dave. How come the contributors list has "names withheld by request" yet listed them by alphabetical order. Especially the one between Pierson and Plumhoff. Who could that be and why doesn't he want his name revealed? Is he ashamed?

Here is why we can never work together:

"....the reality is that the East-controlled USAPA is the root cause of the troubles for the West." Leonidas Update July 20, 2013

EOA , could the outcome of Silvers court , regardless when she tosses etc be appealed to the 9th for verification that this MOU is not a JCBA, I am extremely confident it is not but for future purposes of timely litigation can we take advantage of the opportunity? MM

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

:blush: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-airways-pilots-look-endgame-104000961.html Nothing really has changed but actual reality has set in!

 

[Portly Dorman]

:blush: http://finance.yahoo...-104000961.html Nothing really has changed but actual reality has set in!

That's correct.....LOA93 continues on.

 

[Reed Richards]

It took most of yesterday's news and discussion, and a third reading of the complaint, to realize this is over. I asked a few days ago if this was personal (about Parker) and some answered "no." But it indeed IS personal, this is about Parker, who is being singled out in the business world as a CEO who not only hates his employees, but also despises the travelling public. And a CEO who is not afraid to put that kind of stuff on tape and in emails. He has said for years employee moral makes no business sense. The Obama administration is going to make an example of the overreach of big business, and Parker will be their symbol. He has made it very easy for them to make their case. I am not here to spread gloom and doom, but I have already advised my own family and friends not to waste their time trying to follow all the legal events to come. Don't allow false hopes to ruin your lives, it is time to move on. All the petitions and rah rah rallys on Capitol Hill with labor and Parker arm and arm are just going to disgust the public. They now have a peek behind the curtain of a CEO that treats his own employees as disposables and his passengers as simply cows to be milked. Those unpleasant analogies are not the way you create the largest airline in the world. Such epic enterprises must be done with grace, humility, and especially with the loyal following of your own employees. Stick a fork in it. RR