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First 1984 wanting to go back to ALPA, and now a loyal guy like you suggesting such a thing (and I too have a good sense of humor!) Its a a madhouse! Not really, its election season in CLT. And the logic is not even there. The PHX reps voting a certain way on the MOU based on a bribe would also be DOL fodder, maybe even (heavens!) RICO!! RR
Suggesting sometimes good people make poor decisions was ur response do I need to repost?
 
First 1984 wanting to go back to ALPA, and now a loyal guy like you suggesting such a thing (and I too have a good sense of humor!) Its a a madhouse! Not really, its election season in CLT. And the logic is not even there. The PHX reps voting a certain way on the MOU based on a bribe would also be DOL fodder, maybe even (heavens!) RICO!! RR
I am a USAPA Supporter, You have your opinion, I have mine, now take your loyalty BS and shove it I am on your team our QB sucks ok?
 
I just love election season, it brings out the best in all of us. I will make this simple. There is no way Bradford in particular made this deal. Call him if you doubt me. Why would the guy that went to all the trouble to win USAPA as a new bargaining agent even make an empty promise to give that away? It will be a trip to SCOTUS before USAPA allows any union at the table other than APA. But my words ring hollow, no merger is even happening. Again, this is election season and I see even Hate2fly is back to spew untruths in support of Cleary avatar Courtney Borman. RR

RR,

I don't even know Courtney Borman. You have been a fervent supporter of the current officers. You get really defensive when someone says something about your boys. I gave up all hope when this group put a check pilot in as president. I don't even go to union meetings anymore. You guys are a bunch of control freaks.

Hate
 
Funny that was our thought that Russ and ELISE would do but guess what? Send and Email to the DOJ, BTW their reply to me was they are well aware of what is going on in these lawsuits!

After i breathed into a bag and stoped hyperventlating, i did some research, it's not so gloomy. Sorry to hear that was their reply, i already signed the petition, just to do something.

Bean
 
RR,

I don't even know Courtney Borman. You have been a fervent supporter of the current officers. You get really defensive when someone says something about your boys. I gave up all hope when this group put a check pilot in as president. I don't even go to union meetings anymore. You guys are a bunch of control freaks.

Hate

You and MM spread your election season lies. I reply. The gallery judges. This is after all a web board with anonymous postings. And to be clear, Gary was fired as a check airman standing up for us. And my "group" that put him in was a majority of our members. Guess your logic on all things union and DOH does not stand the test of local politics. Are you telling our West brothers that the majority of anything is a "control freak?" RR
 
Bean,

I've thought you were one of the smarter of the west posters. What exactly would USAPA supporting moving ahead with DFR do to "unite us against a common threat to our careers?" You lost me there.

I'm actually surprised that you guys would want to go through with this.

Who's talking DFR, i'm talking about helping the merger.

I want long term stability. What good is seniority if 15 years down the road there's no airline. Last to be furloughed?

Bean
 
Well they do their Bobby B golfcourse justice league has to take advantage of every hearing except this time eyes are watching, emails have been leaked and it will be fun to see the RATS jump ship!

Sorry, i'm not part of the inner circle. I play tennis, not golf.

Bean
 
After i breathed into a bag and stoped hyperventlating, i did some research, it's not so gloomy. Sorry to hear that was their reply, i already signed the petition, just to do something.

Bean
Well good for you, my suggestion, view this as a great part time job and take control of your own destiny outside this madness, you will find it refreshing and entertaining, and most of all empowering! GOOD LUCK!
 
I just love election season, it brings out the best in all of us. I will make this simple. There is no way Bradford in particular made this deal. Call him if you doubt me. Why would the guy that went to all the trouble to win USAPA as a new bargaining agent even make an empty promise to give that away? It will be a trip to SCOTUS before USAPA allows any union at the table other than APA. But my words ring hollow, no merger is even happening. Again, this is election season and I see even Hate2fly is back to spew untruths in support of Cleary avatar Courtney Borman. RR

RR I gotta call you on election season accusations. You were one of the first to post in a way to sway votes in the CLT election. Frankly I was a bit disappointed as I thought you wouldn't insult voters that way. But its a free country so you can post how you want.

I don't have a problem with you calling people out if you think they are engaging in politics now with stories of HUMMELL, BRADFORD, CIABOTTONI.... but you should do so more cleanly....

While BRADFORD might appreciate your denial that he "in particular" would never make such a deal... I would think that HUMMELL, and CIABOTTONI would have appreciated a firm, clear denial on their behalf as well... even more so than a counter accusations about politics.
 
Those things are as certain as taxes.Not to mention that the FAA always shows up on the last leg of the worst 4 day trip you have ever had.

And then a check airman shows up to give a line check on the flight for your commute home!
 
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