August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[traderjake]

What happened to the movement to replace USAPA that was floating around Chip's group a while back?

I'm not aware of any movement, Chip and some others always talking about ALPA and replacing USAPA.

The problem is us pilots, not the name on the door.

 

[Portly Dorman]

The problem with pilots is that they have no clue how to negotiate.... I am afraid most do not even have the situational awareness to see when they are in negotiations. The majority of pilots want to fix things and always jump to the conclusion that the time is now and more must be done.

However , the most influential people in the the world have the discipline to practice the truism that "Less is more. Most of the time."

So says the 'we don't need a plan B' gang.

So who negotiated LOA93? Wasn't there a better offer proffered? Wasn't your negotiators advised to FREEZE the pension but said they could get more??

Please, carry on...

 

[Portly Dorman]

So says an admitted dues deadbeat who argues here he does not need to "read" the MOU to make an argument. You have to participate in the process AND be informed before unity. Unless of course you meant "blind" unity. RR

Why support an organization that doesn't listen to the members? 75% said yes to the MOU (which I would think means they support the merger) yet nothing from the union.

They are "CONFERRING"-

Captain Gary Hummel | President | USAPA
US Airline Pilots Association,
200 East Woodlawn Road, Suite 250, Charlotte, NC 28217
704.804.2724 Cell | 704.936.4500 Office | x4504 | USAirlinePilots.org

Xxxxxxxx,

The BPR, Officers and our legal team are conferring constantly to insure that when we do make official comments concerning the DOJ actions, they will protect and promote the best interest of our pilots. You will be hearing from us soon.

Gary

 

[traderjake]

Wasn't your negotiators advised to FREEZE the pension but said they could get more??

The John Davis lead MEC said he could get his lump sum, they didn't give a cr*p about the rest of us.

 

[Phoenix]

The John Davis lead MEC said he could get his lump sum, they didn't give a sh*t about the rest of us.

I see, was he the original old senior person who had disdain for guys junior to him. I am not sure but I am unaware of him ever peppering a message board to rally folks to pull the ladder up.

Seems to me keeping a lump sum is a good example. Voting it away, not so much.

 

[traderjake]

I see, was he the original old senior person who had disdain for guys junior to him.

The disconnect with reality continues, and the price is very high.

 

[Phoenix]

The disconnect with reality continues, and the price is very high.

I'm not so sure that's a truism. I suspect Alex Jones is very wealthy.

 

[traderjake]

I'm not so sure that's a truism. I suspect Alex Jones is very wealthy.

Glad to hear you look at the website.

http://www.infowars....yrian-invasion/

Fox News, dominated by the neocon faction of the global elite, has placed the blame for the chemical attack in Syria on the al-Assad regime despite a noticeable lack of evidence. Fox News and other establishment media sources are basing their conclusions on information provided by “Syrian opposition groups,” in other words the CIA’s Free Syrian Army and the terror organizations al-Nusra and al-Qaeda.

The propaganda effort that will likely result in a U.S. and NATO invasion of Syria, with similar deadly after effects witnessed in Libya (30,000 dead), is being led by the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, the Local Coordination Committees in Syria, and the Syrian National Coalition.

 

[Phoenix]

Glad to hear you look at the website.

http://www.infowars....yrian-invasion/

Fox News, dominated by the neocon faction of the global elite, has placed the blame for the chemical attack in Syria on the al-Assad regime despite a noticeable lack of evidence. Fox News and other establishment media sources are basing their conclusions on information provided by “Syrian opposition groups,” in other words the CIA’s Free Syrian Army and the terror organizations al-Nusra and al-Qaeda.

I just go for the videos. I think he looks ready powerful and effective with a bull horn screaming at black limousines outside of the Bildeberger gatherings. It makes a decent living.

 

[cactusboy53]

BTW CB53. You aren't on GoGo are you. I thought you were headed to BOS.

WOW. I was in BOS for 37 hrs. Weather was beautiful. I can only presume that your multiple posts & tone, that your britches must be in a twist.

I'll be home for a couple days, then back to the grind. Gutters, lawn & gardens are on the agenda for tomorrow.

Have a great day.

 

[Reed Richards]

Interesting, the leadership at the West Class HQ has some very, very bad (and self inflicted) news for its devotees. Why are they not releasing said news? I suspect they know donations to LEO will drop off accordingly. I now know why certain individuals are absent here. Wow. Silver's decision making process just got a lot more simple. RR (doing my very best Chip Munn impression)

 

[Claxon]

Interesting, the leadership at the West Class HQ has some very, very bad (and self inflicted) news for its devotees. Why are they not releasing said news? I suspect they know donations to LEO will drop off accordingly. I now know why certain individuals are absent here. Wow. Silver's decision making process just got a lot more simple. RR (doing my very best Chip Munn impression)

You are correct. The noose just tightened.

 

[CallawayGolf]

Interesting, the leadership at the West Class HQ has some very, very bad (and self inflicted) news for its devotees. Why are they not releasing said news? I suspect they know donations to LEO will drop off accordingly. I now know why certain individuals are absent here. Wow. Silver's decision making process just got a lot more simple. RR (doing my very best Chip Munn impression)

Care to elaborate? So many people on both sides have made similar statements over the years which turned out to be total fabrication. Instead of making veiled references why don't you just state what you know or heard regarding this matter?

 

[Phoenix]

Care to elaborate? So many people on both sides have made similar statements over the years which turned out to be total fabrication. Instead of making veiled references why don't you just state what you know or heard regarding this matter?

That was a quick response... And we haven't heard from you in a very long while. Could your quick and rare appearance of protest be seen as a "protest too much" ironically having the opposite affect you intended?

Please call Leo and ask why Cleardirect has disappeared. Or perhaps you could tell us?

 

[Reed Richards]

That was a quick response... And we haven't heard from you in a very long while. Could your quick and rare appearance of protest be seen as a "protest too much" ironically having the opposite affect you intended?

Please call Leo and ask why Cleardirect has disappeared.

Bazinga! That WAS a quick answer! My source is solid, the events are fact. Nuff said. RR