August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Piedmont1984]

thats a couple thousand captain upgrades... Our jets on order. How many of those captain seats should go to you?

Have you already forgotten all those F/O's in DFW who choose to stay in the right seat for Q.O.L. reasons? We also have orders to fill and retirments to replace, plenty of empty seats to go around. Bottom line is that I prefer you and I decide how to allocate those seats, not a panel of arbitrators.

 

[EastUS1]

A little early to be drinking?

re-read what was posted.

Which portions? Those erudite and compellingly brilliant presentations referencing "drooling", now "drinking" or the one that suggested some unknown, universal mystery about the SLI to be worked out between the APA and USAPA? "There are elements to this SLI that you fail to understand or truthfully don't even know exists."...? 🙂 What worthwhile postings have you made that you now reference here? Perhaps those claiming arbitration's inevitable and discussion's thus pointless?....And your fervent efforts at "proving" such by way of your "thoughts"? 😉

 

[Pi brat]

80% of our DFW 777 F/O's are 767 I Captain seniority, yet chose to fly as 777 F/O's due to Q.O.L. and economics. When that thing launches to Asia, there's a crew of 4.

Not only is our Intl. flying greater, the job dynamic in a lot of cases is something that doesn't exist at LCC. There are elements to this SLI that you fail to understand or truthfully don't even know exists.

You're more naive than i thought if you believe this will be a negotiated settlement.

Any takers on my bet?

Nooo, you have 4 whole pilots when you launch to Asia? Who would have thunk it.

It's been a while since geography class, but seems that Israel is part of Asia. So when we launch for Asia from PHL then that aircraft has, wait for it, 4 pilots! Pull up our seniority list and take a look at some of the seniority numbers in the right seat of the A330.

 

[CaptChill]

BTW, you're welcome for the giant pay raise. 🙂

You didn't give us anything including a pay raise... I see this poser has the same elitist attitude as some of the west posters here... I seriously think he is a westie

 

[EastUS1]

Nooo, you have 4 whole pilots when you launch to Asia? Who would have thunk it.

It's been a while since geography class, but seems that Israel is part of Asia. So when we launch for Asia from PHL then that aircraft has, wait for it, 4 pilots! Pull up our seniority list and take a look at some of the seniority numbers in the right seat of the A330.

Don't let us be gettin' uppity here Pi. After all: "There are elements to this SLI that you fail to understand or truthfully don't even know exists." 🙂

 

[cleardirect]

80% of our DFW 777 F/O's are 767 I Captain seniority, yet chose to fly as 777 F/O's due to Q.O.L. and economics. When that thing launches to Asia, there's a crew of 4.

Not only is our Intl. flying greater, the job dynamic in a lot of cases is something that doesn't exist at LCC. There are elements to this SLI that you fail to understand or truthfully don't even know exists.

You're more naive than i thought if you believe this will be a negotiated settlement.

Any takers on my bet?

Obviously you have failed to understand how seniority in the land of usapa works.

None of that other stuff matters. To east pilots there is one and only one single factor in merging seniority.

Date of Hire.

Status, category, seat, pay, number of aircraft. None of it matters to an east pilot. Only how long you have worked for your old airline

Yes you are correct east pilots are much more naive than you thought.

 

[AAviator]

Nope, don't care about you message. I have a long memory and I remember you posts from over a year ago and your "stir,stir" comment. That's what you are, a xxxx stirring AAhole.

You mentioned your 400 airplanes on order. What about ours? What about the new ones we have had delivered? How many of your A/C are in need of being turned into beer cans?

Keep going...
Your 767's are future Shlitz cans if I'm not mistaken.
I'm with you so far...

 

[AAviator]

Have you already forgotten all those F/O's in DFW who choose to stay in the right seat for Q.O.L. reasons? We also have orders to fill and retirments to replace, plenty of empty seats to go around. Bottom line is that I prefer you and I decide how to allocate those seats, not a panel of arbitrators.

I'm in.

But I'm also a realist.

USAPA is not known to be a haven for "realists"

 

[AAviator]

Which portions? Those erudite and compellingly brilliant presentations referencing "drooling", now "drinking" or the one that suggested some unknown, universal mystery about the SLI to be worked out between the APA and USAPA? "There are elements to this SLI that you fail to understand or truthfully don't even know exists."...? 🙂 What worthwhile postings have you made that you now reference here? Perhaps those claiming arbitration's inevitable and discussion's thus pointless?....And your fervent efforts at "proving" such by way of your "thoughts"? 😉

You're far too crafty and wiley for me.

Can you answer a question without a question?

If you've made any worthwhile posting, I've surely missed them.

 

[prechilill]

Obviously you have failed to understand how seniority in the land of usapa works.

None of that other stuff matters. To east pilots there is one and only one single factor in merging seniority.

Date of Hire.

Status, category, seat, pay, number of aircraft. None of it matters to an east pilot. Only how long you have worked for your old airline

Yes you are correct east pilots are much more naive than you thought.

Wrong! It's DOH only if it benefits the east. Otherwise, it's relative (Trump) or staple (Empire)... East Situational ethics at its best. 😀

 

[cleardirect]

Nope, don't care about you message. I have a long memory and I remember you posts from over a year ago and your "stir,stir" comment. That's what you are, a xxxx stirring AAhole.

You mentioned your 400 airplanes on order. What about ours? What about the new ones we have had delivered? How many of your A/C are in need of being turned into beer cans?

So now aircraft orders are important. How many aircraft did AWA have on order before the merger? How many did you easties want to give us credit for?

Situational ethics.

 

[EastUS1]

To east pilots....

Ah! So we still have an unresolved east and west issue to deal with? 😉

 

[AAviator]

Nooo, you have 4 whole pilots when you launch to Asia? Who would have thunk it.

It's been a while since geography class, but seems that Israel is part of Asia. So when we launch for Asia from PHL then that aircraft has, wait for it, 4 pilots! Pull up our seniority list and take a look at some of the seniority numbers in the right seat of the A330.

Beyond TLV, how many 4 man ops do you have? Curious..

 

[cleardirect]

Have you already forgotten all those F/O's in DFW who choose to stay in the right seat for Q.O.L. reasons? We also have orders to fill and retirments to replace, plenty of empty seats to go around. Bottom line is that I prefer you and I decide how to allocate those seats, not a panel of arbitrators.

Except you easties only have one view of the world. East pilots get everything the rest of us get nothing.

East pilots are incapable of negotiating a fair deal or living up to it.

 

[GuntherA320]

Beyond TLV, how many 4 man ops do you have? Curious..

1 Currently. 4 in January.

How many 2 man Transatlantic trips does AA have?